Qualification trial - Page 15

Schznd,
Well played sir, well played indeed!  

"That's your MO, Thomas you comment on shit you know nothing about or don't have 1st hand knowledge of. I was standing on the edge of the field behind Ivan"

John,

I don't need to have been at the qualifier in person to see the obvious discrepancy in the scores between the two judges.
How many people commenting on this topic were there in person?

As far as Ivan and Ebor. I know him better then I know anyone on the PDB and if he says the decoy turned early.. I believe him.
From your vantage point behind Ivan are you saying the decoy didn't turn too early?

Thomas Barriano.

http://www.vomhausmiller.com/combined/home.htm

Link to 2012 qualifier results above

2012 is an example of what scores look like when judges follow the same IPO standard.  2012 qualifier results with Craig Groh and Mike West as judges .. none of the crazy scores we saw in 2013 without Caputo but with the same WDA judge West.  I guess the USCA had to shop around in 2013 for a judge that would sell out the GSDCA-WDA in 2013 so that they could sweep the qualifier ??  Well it didn't work and the world saw what the USCA and Caputo did by low balling the WDA scores in protection and that will be long remembered just like the other cheating and lies from the past.  If anyone cares to compare the scores between 2012 and 2013 you will see that Caputo was helping the USCA and not following the IPO standard and West was the same judge both years.  Game, set, match USCA deniers of guilt.  The truth is there for all to see.

I don't need to have been at the qualifier in person to see the obvious discrepancy in the scores between the two judges.
How many people commenting on this topic were there in person?

You're right you don't need to be there in person but you can look at the videos and see very clearly a V routine from a G, its right there.
 

As far as Ivan and Ebor. I know him better then I know anyone on the PDB and if he says the decoy turned early.. I believe him.
From your vantage point behind Ivan are you saying the decoy didn't turn too early?

When you get that video let me know.  I went through the shellshots teaser also which had the top 3 placements and all the long bites, not there either.

john sequino

 

I'd rather sacrifice my score for a decoy that turned too early than to sacrifice my dog for a decoy that didn't turn in time.  Just sayin'...

Once again, the voice of reason, Grossman!!

Keith,

At a National event you shouldn't have to choose between a jammed dog or one that doesn't get the opportunity to get a grip

Thomas Barriano

Sometimes you do, Thomas.

Dobbie as most people know my name is Rick Mattox. You know that name from the Working Dog Forum. As we've agreed and disagreed back and forth on a number of threads there. You seem to have latched onto this Ivan/Ebor thing like a dog with a bone. So Ivan feels the helper turned to soon... OK. You say you'd like to see the video of it. Well Ivan's posted his OB routine on YOUTUBE. Why he hasn't he posted the protection on there as well is beyond me. That would show exactly what happened. (maybe that's why???) And as far as it being easier to catch a GSD than a MAL... Well check out the same back half helper catching a GSD that is as fast as a MAL and hits harder. I'm sure Ebor's speed didn't faze this helper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un6j3fXYNUc                

As for Diehl and Meverden this argument is asinine. As mentioned before, there is no trophy or anything. So whether Mike is first or Chris is first they are both on the world team. That doesn't even make for a good argument.

By the way I just  watched Mike's/Irmus video Wallace posted. At :46 when Irmus rounds the blind, I'm the guy in the bottom right of the screen in the gray t-shirt/cammo hat, Just to the right of the fellow in the red ball cap leaning on the fence about 6 feet behind the call out spot. Now where were you that you can make these statements on how the judging should have went?????

Either way this doesn't effect me as I wasn't in either trial. So I really couldn't care less at this point. Now the only thing any of us can do is wait and see how each American on the USA team scores. God help the PDB if the UScA members score higher than the WDA. then it will be the ENTIRE world is out to get them. LOL.


 

Thomas .. take a look at my post with a link to the 2012 WUSV qualifier .. Judges West and Groh .. shows clearly that Caputo was low-balling the WDA in 2013.  In 2012 the scores of Groh and West tracked very well and also in protection.  In comes Caputo for the USCA in 2013 and 16 point and 13 point protection spreads become the norm for the WDA.