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by Mike D on 13 June 2013 - 11:06
I have studied the video and the still photos and have discovered what happened.
The "Powers that Be" at UScA selected Caputo to instruct Marcus exactly how and when to:
1. Not present the sleeve in time
2. Wave the sleeve around when presenting
3. Change the position of the sleeve repeatedly
4. Jump higher than a tall building
5. Snatch the sleeve at the last minute
6. Prevent a bite at all costs by that evil Mali that might steal the championship from a UScA member
If we could just slow the frames down enough we probably would be able to see Caputo walk onto the trial field and
demonstrate to Marcus exactly how to cause this dog to miss the bite.
Mike
(For dober and boo-that's sarcasm above- don't want you to think I'm agreeing with you ;)
The "Powers that Be" at UScA selected Caputo to instruct Marcus exactly how and when to:
1. Not present the sleeve in time
2. Wave the sleeve around when presenting
3. Change the position of the sleeve repeatedly
4. Jump higher than a tall building
5. Snatch the sleeve at the last minute
6. Prevent a bite at all costs by that evil Mali that might steal the championship from a UScA member
If we could just slow the frames down enough we probably would be able to see Caputo walk onto the trial field and
demonstrate to Marcus exactly how to cause this dog to miss the bite.
Mike
(For dober and boo-that's sarcasm above- don't want you to think I'm agreeing with you ;)
by Dobermannman on 13 June 2013 - 11:06
OK Z dog (who ever you are. I don't remember all the cutesy screen names you guys use) Why are his feet off the ground.?
Most of what I've seen from your side is "waa waa quit picking on decoys" and personal attacks that had zero to do with the topic.
Most of the dozens of helpers that have caught my dogs over the years have done a great job. Only one deliberately side stepped one. When there was a mistake made it was admitted to and learned from. The decoys I work with don't blame the dog for their mistakes. Actually I don't know if Marcus thinks it was his mistake or Ebors since all we're hearing from is a few vocal experts (I"m a certified decoy (club level) so I know everything)
Thomas Barriano
Most of what I've seen from your side is "waa waa quit picking on decoys" and personal attacks that had zero to do with the topic.
Most of the dozens of helpers that have caught my dogs over the years have done a great job. Only one deliberately side stepped one. When there was a mistake made it was admitted to and learned from. The decoys I work with don't blame the dog for their mistakes. Actually I don't know if Marcus thinks it was his mistake or Ebors since all we're hearing from is a few vocal experts (I"m a certified decoy (club level) so I know everything)
Thomas Barriano
by Dobermannman on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Mike D
Cute post but no one has suggested anything was planned or deliberate. Just a bad catch for a variety of reasons.
Nothing more, nothing less. Quit making excuses and just see it for what it is.
Thomas Barriano
Cute post but no one has suggested anything was planned or deliberate. Just a bad catch for a variety of reasons.
Nothing more, nothing less. Quit making excuses and just see it for what it is.
Thomas Barriano
by Mike D on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Thomas,
I actually did see it for what it was when I commented on the pic below, back on page 4. You and the boo are the ones
refusing to see that the dog just came off the sleeve and so did not deserve to win, even though he is likely still a
good dog and will likely win his share of championships.
You ladies will have to carry on without me on this topic from here on out.
I actually did see it for what it was when I commented on the pic below, back on page 4. You and the boo are the ones
refusing to see that the dog just came off the sleeve and so did not deserve to win, even though he is likely still a
good dog and will likely win his share of championships.
You ladies will have to carry on without me on this topic from here on out.
by bubbabooboo on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Plenty of video showing the helper dropping the sleeve and then jerking it back up .. the helper screwed up and the video shows it. Apparently the ones struggling with the truth are those who can't accept that Ivan and Ebor were the best handler/dog team on the field that day .. and the "so called winners" were really second best to Ivan and Ebor. All anyone needs to do is watch Ivan and Ebor do their routines and the real winner is obvious. The helper mistake cost Ebor and Ivan the championship that day but they were still the real winners. The idea of cheating and the USCA .. that I am sure never occurred to anyone but Mike D.
by Dobermannman on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Mike,
You're trying to claim that Ebor is launching in that picture? When was the last time you saw any dog jump off his back feet while his front paws are planted? More likely the dog is in mid stride and braking with his front feet in reaction to the sleeve moving. It's hard to comment on why he came off the sleeve unless we see a clear view of the bite, grip sleeve position etc. It the sleeve was moving sideways he couldn't get a full grip and hold on. Take a close look at the picture above. Both back feet are off the ground. Ebor is braking not launching :-(
Thomas Barriano
You're trying to claim that Ebor is launching in that picture? When was the last time you saw any dog jump off his back feet while his front paws are planted? More likely the dog is in mid stride and braking with his front feet in reaction to the sleeve moving. It's hard to comment on why he came off the sleeve unless we see a clear view of the bite, grip sleeve position etc. It the sleeve was moving sideways he couldn't get a full grip and hold on. Take a close look at the picture above. Both back feet are off the ground. Ebor is braking not launching :-(
Thomas Barriano
by Bob McKown on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
I,ve never caught a dog on the competition field, never said I did and don,t want to. So that (by your own premise) means neither have you. But the big difference is i,m not 1 of the 2 trying to make a civil case out of it or off handedly suggestion a foul deed that is yours and you buddies game. I am smart enough to realize anyone on any given day can have a bad day to insinuate that there is more to it then that just shows your ignorance. Marcus has a fine reputation as a helper and looks like he did as much as he could to present the sleeve and make sure there were no injuries by either. Why devote an entire thread to coulda woulda shoulda, but i guess that is your guys modus operandi.
by Dobermannman on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Once again No one is "making a federal case" or demeaning Marcus skills or claiming a foul deed. We are discussing ONE catch only
Thomas Barriano
Thomas Barriano
by Bob McKown on 13 June 2013 - 12:06
Really!
Go back and read your buddies and yours writing on this and the other threads that were hijacked. If it,s not accusatory then i don,t know what is. Your subtle hints that the wrong people won are all but sickening. When you can do better then all the helpers that have responded to these quack comments by you and yours just let me know and show the video. That will end the debate
Go back and read your buddies and yours writing on this and the other threads that were hijacked. If it,s not accusatory then i don,t know what is. Your subtle hints that the wrong people won are all but sickening. When you can do better then all the helpers that have responded to these quack comments by you and yours just let me know and show the video. That will end the debate
by Mike D on 13 June 2013 - 13:06
Thomas,
Here is what I wrote on page 4:
"The dog's back feet are off the ground so he has yet to launch, even though he is coming under."
Here is how you interpreted what I said:
"You're trying to claim that Ebor is launching in that picture? When was the last time you saw any dog jump off his back feet while his front paws are planted?"
I really am done enabling now.
Mike
Here is what I wrote on page 4:
"The dog's back feet are off the ground so he has yet to launch, even though he is coming under."
Here is how you interpreted what I said:
"You're trying to claim that Ebor is launching in that picture? When was the last time you saw any dog jump off his back feet while his front paws are planted?"
I really am done enabling now.
Mike
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