Qualification trial - Page 10

I've never stuck my hand in an alligator's mouth but common sense informs me I probably don't want to do that just as common sense tells me those kinds of point spreads don't require me to be standing side line at the trial to make me say WTF. Of course it must have been West's fault as we all know the UScA is without sin.

Keith

Where is Wallace Payne when we need him??  I'd love to hear his explanation for this ambush at the qualifier??

A quick look at the total scores shows the UScA judge scoring the WDA competitors -7 -8-5-18-12-16 and -11 then the WDA judge.
It shows the WDA judge scoring the UScA competitors -5 +2 +2 +1 +8 +2 -6 and +3 then the UScA judge.  Sure looks like the UScA competitors got a lot better deal from the WDA judge (Actually Mike West was a UScA judge longer then he's been a WDA judge but that's another story :-)) then visa versa.

Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) TT IPO II STP I
Winterfell Arya (11/27/09)BH TT K9NW I
Gwrgenau vom Himmelhoch (8/19/09) BH TT

 

There is where we differ, Keith.

I don't know or pretend to know that anything was Mr. "West's fault."  Or Mr. Caputo's.

But, I've know doubt you and Booboo have the wherewithal to figure it all out from afar.

Very, very smart, well balanced people.

Or not....

Maybe your next posts will give some insight.

Best to you (both),

Kevin

No different than the BS you fed about maybe West score's were too high or the brilliant post of WDA judges are used to seeing the showline dogs so perhaps they're expectations aren't as high as according to Grossman...but because it was stated by diehard UScA members it's somehow different. Spare me your sanctimonious rhetoric. I did talk to one of the competitors who got hammered by Caputo. Let's just say that both judges commented and took points off in the same area but somehow Caputo found an extra 2 digit deduction.

Keith Jenkins
 

Keith, you NEED some sanctimonious rhetoric; but, this is a terrible venue for it.
BTW, I've been "hammered" by Mr. Caputo previously; really, really hard and at a National event to boot.
And, I understand (and respect) exactly why he did it; even if I don't fully agree.
But, that is the essence of sport from a "well balanced" perspective.
Others (like you) apparently feel personally persecuted.
Enough sanctimonious rhetoric for you?
More than enough for me....
Kevin
P.S.  I have no CLUE whether Mr. West scored well or not....  But, you apparently do because you don't stick your hand in alligators' mouths....

Come on guys, Mike West was a UScA trained and licensed judge and has judged a LOT more working lines then show lines. The "used to show lines" quote is nonsense. There is still a big difference in how he scored UScA competitors and how Mike Caputo scored the WDA competitors (see previous post)

Mike Caputo scored EVERY WDA competitor lower in over all score then Mike West
Mike West  score 6/8 UScA competitors HIGHER then Mike Caputo.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm

Or another, less conspiratorial way of "analyzing" it, Mr. Caputo scored 15 out of 17 TOTAL competitors lower than Mr. West.
Sounds about right for the way Mr. Caputo consistently is known to judge even WITHIN the USCA.

But again, all anecdotal and/or conjecture (nonsense) from we "non players."

Kevin

Caputo does not get to decide how he judges or if that is his intention he should resign as a SV judge and an IPO judge.  There is but one IPO standard and Caputo must follow it .. if he decides to "judge harder" he is breaking the IPO rules and should be stripped of his SV accreditation.  The judges follow the rules as written and do not decide what they think is the standard.  The standard is written down and taught by the SV to their judges.  In NASCAR there is a saying that "if you ain't rubbin you ain't racin' " and I guess the saying in the USCA is "if you ain't cheatin' , you ain't competin' " or perhaps "if your cheatin' and you don't get caught it ain't cheatin' "???  It is good for the membership of the USCA to see how corrupt their organization is from time to time just so they know they are getting their money's worth because apparently that is what they signed up for.