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by PatriotAmanda on 23 June 2009 - 17:06
by nonacona60 on 23 June 2009 - 18:06
by Two Moons on 23 June 2009 - 18:06
Worm if you think you have a problem but not after shes been bred.
You might test for Brucellosis before breeding, some breeders require it before stud service.
Feed well, quality food, keep the dog fit. (exercise) I don't believe in a lot of additives, just some simple extras at times, natural not man made.
It can be expensive to have puppies and I don't waste money on verifying pregnancy, you can't change it so just wait and see.
The vet can be your friend, he can also be a money pit and not know his arse from a hole in the ground.
I've experienced both.
Keep puppies and whelping area clean, no need for an exam unless you see a problem, I leave new borns alone as much as possible for the first couple of days.
Mine get wormed and first shots at six weeks, thats usually the first time they go to the vet.
Never let them down on the floor of a vets office, don't let people touch them at the vets office.
Keep things simple and relax.
Find a vet you think you can trust.
P.S.
What are you breeding, and why?
by Ron Hudson on 23 June 2009 - 18:06
by PatriotAmanda on 23 June 2009 - 20:06
by Rik on 24 June 2009 - 05:06
I also started the pups worming at 10 days with pyrantel pamoate (sp again, sorry). It is a very safe wormer and gets round worms, which is the biggest threat to pups.
Pesonnally, I would not use the multi vacs. on pups. You can get the single vacs online (Jeffers, KV Vet, etc.). I just don't trust the multi vacs.
My pups never left my yard and I did not allow any visitors to them. I would start the vaccines as late as possible. Parvo first, distemper a week later.
JMHO,
Rik
by Two Moons on 24 June 2009 - 07:06
The dog could have her pups on her own with no help from anyone, and a healthy dog in a clean environment would not need to see a vet at all.
Puppies need basic care and nothing more.
Its not rocket science.
Nature has already given animals the knowledge and we can only complicate a natural process by interfering.
Giving your own shots requires buying in bulk and is not practical for one litter, just use the vet.
Don't be to quick to medicate your puppies, there's a time for worming and its not 10 days.
Again a clean environment and healthy bitch is the key to that.
Take everyones advice with a grain of salt.
Keep things simple.
Moons.
by EKvonEarnhardt on 24 June 2009 - 09:06
I am a veterinary technician you stated How comfortable are you giving shots and experienced? if not then I would go to the vet at least for the first shot to make sure you feel comfortable giving then. Ask your Vet that you work for if they can help you or atleast stand by you as you give them (some vet will help like that - not many but some),
Worming is all done at different times ( to each is thier own) if mom is clean and been worm before breeding then waiting a while -Should not - be a problem but if puppies are bloated in the tummies, not gaining wieght and passing worms then -worm.
My next question - is there any breeders (good ones) that can mentor you that are local? maybe at your club or???? It also helps having a second pair of hands specially the first time.
OH kids and delivering puppies in my book do not mix. NOW there are exception to the ruls as I know many older teens and preteens that are very helpfull but were taught and raised up around this world. Since this is your first time and your dogs first time I would have to say keep the stress and noise down and don't let the children keep poppin in and out. It will be stressful enough. After everything is all done and calmed down ( a couple days) then let the kids see the puppies. Try to get a babysitter or hubby :)
Another thing have handy is food and water for you , something to read or watch, clear your day or night of everything else so you can be with her, pillow and blanket , asprin ( for body aches from sleeping on the floor or in the chair :)
Did you ever get her registered?
That is a very nice blood line on the mother Arko is a very hard dog who produces him self in his pupps - who did you breed to ? :)
I have a Arko granddaughter
EK
by PatriotAmanda on 24 June 2009 - 14:06
I have been a veterinary technician for about 4 years. I am extremely comfortable giving vaccines. I can give subcutaneous and intravenious fluids. I have put dogs and cats under anestesia for surgery and done minor dental cleanings etc. myself. I am more than confident with my abilities but again worry about the proper times to give everything. Based on what most vets have told me this is what I have come up with.... you can confirm a pregnancy in the simplest way is by palpation because you can not change the outcome anyhow (as mentioned above), mom can have radiographs about a week or 2 before she is due to confirm a puppy count. Make sure mom is health cert., wormed for roundworms, and up to date on vaccines before breeding. No major nutritional supplements maybe one multi vitamin unless otherwise specified during pregnancy. When puppies are due keep cost of medical assistance in mind and have an emergency plan but otherwise let her do her thing and keep them enclosed away from other pets or people or unsterile environments until about 6 weeks when they should first be seen. When I asked what vaccines they would give and the schedule they said it would be the exact same thing that I would be giving so I might as well do them myself. I have no problem buying in bulk. I have had very different advice about the deworming and whether or not to even vaccinate for certain things. Again this breeding has not and will not take place until I am sure of my plan, financially ready, and my bitch has been penhipped. Thank you all again and I really appreciate all of your help. Based on what I have come up with does anyone have any other suggestions for me. Amanda
by EKvonEarnhardt on 24 June 2009 - 19:06
It sounds like you are over stressing (which is better then under stressing LOL)
Do you have a website?
EK
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