MANUS V TIEKERHOOK PUPS FATHER DAUGHTER MATING ?. - Page 6

Good post Blitz!  I was wondering when someone was going to bring that up.

It's almost 5 here

And just one other point - parents frequently do kill their puppies by rejecting them - both in a breeding situation and in nature.

I dont agree with culling for cosmetic reasons (Obviously) - but if a pup were to have a poor quality of life because of health or serious temperment issues, then I can understand that.

~Cate

Oh....! Of course we all know what's going to pop out each and every litter. Are you a breeder by chance Brady?

4pack

I TAKE IT YOUR OLDIES DONT GET A PLACE AT YOUR FIRESIDE, YOU JUST TURN THEM INTO SOUP LOL LOL LOL

Well I don't have a fireplace unfortunatly but I don't and never have sold an adult dog to make room for puppies, nor do I pump out pups. Not going to answer my ?

CEPH

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT I WOULD EXPECT PUPPIES TO BE CULLED AT BIRTH OR SOON AFTER. SO HOW ON EARTH CAN THEY HAVE (AS YOU SAID IN YOUR POST-SERIOUS  TEMPREMENT ISSUES)    AT BIRTH!!!!!!!!!! COME ON GET REAL.  WHAT DO THEY DO SAVAGE AND RIP OFF THE TEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Brady,

Breeding is a crap shoot.  You can breed the World Champion Male with the World Champion Female and still get crap, crap that needs to be culled! 

I have a German Showline male that is sired by Timo de la Serena, a dog that did extremely well in the German Show ring and he was bred to Uli Waidwerk, a Hearding Segrin!  Guess what?  This male that I have has bad hips!  He was a product of a breeding of 2 very successful dogs!!!!  Shit happens no matter how carefully you plan.  Reputable breeders continually examine/re-examine their breeding program and yes, some times cull puppies, it is not so taboo! 

I feel as a breeder you are constantly examining and re-examining your breedings, you are making logical decisions and not following necessarily what your emotions are telling you to do, when you lead with your emotions your decissions are often not clear!  It is never easy to cull a cute little puppy but often times necessary.

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

4pack does your comment about frying them up in gravy just apply to puppies?hope you have no kids and if you do i hope they all come up to your high standards.we all know culling goes on and sometimes it may well be the right thing to do but this breeder has not given a valid reason for doing it.i do not know which country you come from but hear in the uk we have animal protection societies and i would report this breeder if he has culled these puppies for no good reason,and you for your sick comments!!!!  funky munky

Brady:

STOP SCREAMING!!!

4Pack:  This reminds me, thanks for that great recipe!

Why do you "expect" pups to be culled at birth? It can be done anytime, just as any adult of foul temperament can be put down before it hurts somebody, passes on it's genes, or hears a backfire and runs for the hills. Oh us terrible humans, putting people before dogs, dammit all to hell!!!!!!

Most breeders who do cull, do not cull at birth exept for obvious health reasons, physical deformity, or extremly large litters.

I have culled a pup at 3 weeks for an obvious health reason, one at 8 months for a temperment reason, and one at 1 year for bad hips.

Breeders I know that cull will cull @ puppy temperment test, any problems within the first 2 years, or health failure (hips, elbows, etc.

I am not breeding at this time When I do, my first cull will be @ 8 weeks for any obvious health or temperment problems. 2nd @ 16 weeks. I won't sell puppies before 16 weeks to ensure temperment and proper placement for owner goals. Any pups held back; anytime within the first two years.

In my opinion this is responsible breeding practice as I will be breeding working dogs, not pets.