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Schokrest Clayfield Vision 


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Dam born: 30. March 1991

Schokrest Clayfield Vision

AKC  DL377256/01 04-93
Hip: OFA: Good GS-35579G29F - Elbows: OFA: Normal GS-EL2542F29

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Pedigree


Clayfield Woodside Texaco ROM male

1988
AKC D683189 10-89
HD-OFA: Fair GS-25467F24M
Sire
 Clayfield Woodside Texaco ROM


CH (US) Schokrest Firestone male

1986
AKC D516762
HD-OFA: Good GS-21759G24M-T
Sire
CH (US) Schokrest Firestone


CH (US) Schokrest Blackstone male

1985
AKC D381602
HD-OFA: Good GS-20700G34M
Sire
CH (US) Schokrest Blackstone


CH (US) Schokrest Scarlett Runner female

1981
AKC WF048333
HD-OFA: Normal GS-14313-T
Dam
CH (US) Schokrest Scarlett Runner


Clayfield Tamara v Windigail female

1985
AKC D424447
HD-OFA: Good GS-21446G39F
Dam
ROM

GV CH (US) Cobert's Trollstigen ROM male

1979
AKC WE330426 11-80
HD-OFA: Normal GS-10882
Sire
GV CH (US) Cobert's Trollstigen

ROM

SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady ROM female

1982
AKC WF241732 07-84
HD-OFA: Normal GS-15927
Dam
SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady


Welhorn Clayfld Twice a Lady female

1988
AKC D850859 11-91
HD-OFA: Good GS-29157G38F
Dam
 Welhorn Clayfld Twice a Lady

ROM/ROMC, TC

SEL CH (US/CAN) Nike Clayfield Andretti ROM/ROMC, TC male

1985
AKC D484251 11-87
HD-OFA: Good GS-24352G43M-T
Sire
SEL CH (US/CAN) Nike Clayfield Andretti

ROM/C

SEL CH (US /CAN) Stuttgart's Sundance Kid ROM/C male

1980
AKC WE676475 07-81
HD-OFA: Normal GS-11841
Sire
SEL CH (US /CAN) Stuttgart's Sundance Kid

ROM

SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady ROM female

1982
AKC WF241732 07-84
HD-OFA: Normal GS-15927
Dam
SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady


Clayfield Tigra of Windigail female

1985
AKC D325254
HD-OFA: Good GS-19172G25F
Dam
ROM

GV CH (US) Cobert's Trollstigen ROM male

1979
AKC WE330426 11-80
HD-OFA: Normal GS-10882
Sire
GV CH (US) Cobert's Trollstigen

ROM

SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady ROM female

1982
AKC WF241732 07-84
HD-OFA: Normal GS-15927
Dam
SEL CH (US) Clayfield Allways A Lady

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User comments



FerrumGSDs
Comments: 200
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 08:01 pm
I am really glad there is a Test now that can be used to
show some sort of likelyhood. Would have been nice to have
had it back in the 70s.

On the subject of Angulation, This female and Texaco
are some of the pics of the absolutely most angulated dogs
of their time. And, while they produced well they were not Champions themselves. ( Zues of Fran-Jo was a similar phenomema).

My point is that angulation is not what is judged in the GSDCA specialty ring but instead movement is. This is why you can see
faults in other areas. It is because movement is the key to the win, and no matter how nice a dog looks Head, Body or Type wise, it can't beat a better mover.

This is why without Video it is imposible to understand why a dog won over another.

If other criteria ( virtues ) like trainablity, type, longevity etc.
can be rewarded, I am all for it, and agree it should be persued.

Jo-Ann
Louise M. Penery
Comments: 70
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 03:23 am
"Everyone knows (and so do you) that Aspen died of Bloat and Torsion."

No matter how well a dog is perceived to move, what value is he when so many dogs of his time (and later) were heavily linebred on multiple dogs predisposed to early death?

They had better cover lots of ground with each stride as they may not have much time left to reach from point A to point B--given their limited life expectancy. In those days, people were finishing dogs young and breeding them early for fear that they might not live normal life spans.

While there may be no "tests" for dogs predisposed to early death, it would behoove breeders not to ignore these trends when selecting breeding partners. Actually, testing suspect dogs for EPI would be a start as there is a very strong correlation with EPI/SIBO and toxic gut syndrome.

FerrumGSDs
Comments: 200
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 08:01 pm
Everyone knows (and so do you) that Aspen died of Bloat and Torsion, His owners wrote it loud and clean in the Red Book of the GSDCA.

That is a whole other subject ( Not angulation) that can be talked about for hours.

I am really sorry for those who had to loose their dogs in this way.
Unfortunately it happens to MANY lines and breeds and for this reason even military kennels tack the stomachs of their dogs as a preventative measure against tortion.

I have never felt it was a Fair disease, as there in no test to see
who will get it and who will not.
Louise M. Penery
Comments: 70
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 03:23 am
"Quite simply if you view the old tapes of the GSD Gran Victor " Aspen of Fran-Jo" durring that show, you will see that he flew past all the others."

And tell us how old was Aspen when he died?
FerrumGSDs
Comments: 200
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 08:01 pm
That is a valid question.

First let me say that these dogs are many times not as angulated as their pictures. Handlers I think sometimes overexagerate the pose, to get looks from the judge, and audience.

I have been out of shepherds for a while, but I will share my thoughts.

For brevity I will tell you why I think the severe angulation has been created.

The American dogs in the GSDCA are judged on grass ( preferably) only at a trot ( not walking like in germany)and mainly from the side. Quite simply if you view the old tapes of the GSD Gran Victor " Aspen of Fran-Jo" durring that show, you will see that he flew past all the others. When I saw it I was in awe there was no denying his spectacular gate and judged by that hew was in every way the Grand Victor.

If they were made to pass tests for agility jumps and endurance perhaps those area's would be as beautiful as the gait but the system is not in place.

Another concept I was introduced to was the concept of virtue. and this is another reason animals that can win in the USA specialty ring
would not win in the All-breed or European ring. The virtue of fabulous and exciting sidegait is 80% the rule in the specialty ring and without that you can't get a win. Yes, they want all the virtues in the standard but this one when present means that faults in other areas are forgiven.

One thing I see that changes the American dogs is that they are in a Herding group, and the AKC holds them there. I feel this is the reason that the AKC shepherds have thinner faces and less strong jaws. They are not seen as a Working SchH type but more as a graceful herding dog similar to the collie the Belgian Tuveren and Grunendal ( spelling). Still, I have seen many Malanois with thin heads that were extremely good protection wise.

I think another factor is just the human eye getting used to what it sees everyday. In the begining when I saw the american Champion specialty dogs they looked very wrong, but with time I started to see them as beautiful, while still knowing we needed to improve alot of things.

Similarly, I would get very upset when a German bred dog would win if it had the faults that are most undesireable or that seemed wrong to me. ( examples, are Humped back, square faces that are more rottie shaped that GSD shaped, and the hocks that turn inward, ( cow Jocks).

I do hope that these things can be discused here without any disreperct towards one another.

On this Particular female, I never saw her in person, but I saw Her son "Schokrest Denver" go Sel # 2 back in 98 or 96. He was not by my definition very angulated. He was a good mover with a good outline, certified hips, and he was very clean Comming and going, or should I say, absolutely clean. I don't think the owners planned to campagn him as a stud dog though. His worst fault was a that his pigment was a little light.

Jo-Ann
harley
harley
Comments: 46
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:25 pm
can someone please tell me "WHY"?
what si wrong with the american people that they actually bred shepherds to look like this. i've heard all about the flying trot.but why????
absolutely horrific!
and the american show lines aren't too much better today


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