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VD 5KV1/P Grim z Pohranični stráze 


ZM, ZV 3, IPO 3, SCHH 3, ZPS 1, FH1, ZV 2, WUSV 1997 7° PLATZ
 Kkl 2 

Sire Born: 22. November 1992

VD 5KV1/P Grim z Pohranični stráze

CKS  12282
Hip: SV: HD a-normal (a1) - Elbows: normal
Tattoo: 75133

Breed report

CSSR-Kör.: 5KV1/P

Linebreeding

     

Pedigree

ZM, IPO3, ZVV2, 2XUM CR IPO

SG 5V1/P Ben z Bolfu male

1987
CKSP 73359/87/91
HD-SV: HD a-noch zugelassen (a3)
Sire
SG 5V1/P Ben z Bolfu

CZ - Körung: 5V1/P

IPO1;SPO;SVV2

SG 4CKV5 Argo Agar CS male


CKSP 7305/81/85
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
ZVV3,IPO

VA Chuligan z Boskovstejna male

1972
CSHPK 2929/72/76
HD-a-normal (a1)
Sire
VA Chuligan z Boskovstejna

ZVV2, ZM

V Gabi z Pohranicni straze CS female

1984
SKSP 1762
HD-FCI: A 1/2
Dam
SVV2

SG 5CI5 Carina Vltavanka female


CKSP 20480/86
HD-FCI: A 1/2
Dam
SLP;SVV3;IPO1

SG Aska z Maskovce male

1978
CKSP 80190/81
HD-SV: HD a-Ausland (a6)
Sire
SVV1

SG Carola Slavius female


CKSP 61969/76/79
HD-SV: HD a-Ausland (a6)
Dam
ZVV1, SP-PS

SG 5V1/N Tina z Pohranicni straze CS female

1990
CKSP 10834/92
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
SG 5V1/N Tina z Pohranicni straze CS

CZECH POLICE DOG, ZVV1, SP-PS

VELMI DOBRY Kaso z Pohranicni straze CS 5V6/44 male

1988
CKSP 0565-90/80/90
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
VELMI DOBRY Kaso z Pohranicni straze CS 5V6/44

ZM ZVV1 FH2 SCHH3

5JU6/54 Iwo von der Buschecke male

1982
DDR 130296
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
5JU6/54 Iwo von der Buschecke

ZM, ZVV1, SP-PS

Ema Z Pohranicni Straze Cs female

1982
CKSP 1506
HD-FCI: A 1/2
Dam
PSH2;PS/SP

SG Marga C-Dama female


CKSP 80601
HD-SV: HD a-Ausland (a6)
Dam
SchH1/FH

Gomo vom Schieferschloß male

1984
DDR 9001091
HD-FCI: A 1/2
Sire
 Gomo vom Schieferschloß

ZVV1, ZM

SG Gita z Gera CS female


CKSP 01516/85
HD-SV: HD a-Ausland (a6)
Dam

User comments



Prager
Prager
Comments: 19
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 08:33 pm
Grim is one of the most influential dogs in Czech. His descendant Yago Jipo Me was #4 dog in Czech in 2011 and was competing in WUSV in Kiev. There are many other exceptional dopgs from Grim. Famous dogs are over analyzed and often dissed . But they are famous for a reason. Tho say that there are too many dogs in the pedigrees and that may lead to problems from unknown traits I would say that that is a fallacy. All GSDs have Horand von Grafrath and that is not bad. We are using principles of selective breeding and that will help us to take care of problems. Thus I do not understand when people say we have too much of this excellent dog and too much of that exellent dog in our pedigrees. I personally believe that we should be more worry about not so excellent dogs in our pedigrees.

Going back to Grim some
actually start recognizing Grim line. Grim does not increases bad hips more then most. That was promoted by pedigree thumpers who do not have actual knowledge of the facts who assumed that from Grim's father Ben z Bolfu who has officially C hips. The truth of the matter is that when Ben z Bolfu died the autopsy revealed PERFECT hips. The reason for the mistake in evaluation of Ben's hips as "C" is unknown. Probably clerical error. The fact is that for example Dargo Ha Ja Da - son of Grim was hips improver. But Grim produced slightly above average of bad elbows. That had been bred just about out though, but by introducing Grim more then 2 times it could bring this problem to the surface.
There are concerns for example that Gero z Blatenskeho zamku produced bad hips but in combination with Grim - Dargo ( hip improver) that had been diminished to below average levels.
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Turbo
Turbo
Comments: 11
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 04:27 am
Bubba, what do you think a 5,5 4,5 on Grim would produce? Have you used your male for breeding??? Results? Hips/elbows? Temperament/working ability?
dAWgESOME
dAWgESOME
Comments: 53
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 08:26 pm
please disregard my last comment - no longer missing info
dAWgESOME
dAWgESOME
Comments: 53
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 08:26 pm
Why is his Dam's info not entered....?
bubbabooboo
bubbabooboo
Comments: 49
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 01:13 am
I made the comment just below and let me add that I am not putting down Grim but just pointing out that too much of a good thing is still too much. If others think that Grim improves hips and makes the offspring sweet as sugar please correct me. I have a male who is not line bred on Grim but his dam was 3,3 on Grim. My male is sweet and so is his mother but that is just my experience. I guess I don't have access or knowledge of the Czech system or records so if someone else does please correct me. I would love to be wrong as I love my male but now I have a nagging doubt in my mind about using him for breeding with any matings containing Grim.
bubbabooboo
bubbabooboo
Comments: 49
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 01:13 am
According to what I have read and been told Grim brought a lot of working ability to the Czech lines but at a cost. The word is that line breeding to Grim increases the risk of bad hips and handler aggression problems. Given the number of Czech dogs with Grim in their bloodline best to proceed with caution. Several great dogs doing great work with Grim 3,3 but what will be the cost in the following generations if they are used in breeding programs.
MVF
MVF
Comments: 18
Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:57 am
Please -- if anyone has intimate knowledge of Grim and his work, please let us know what you think.


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