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German Shepherd Dog - maleMale

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab 


Sire Born: 15. March 2002

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab

SZ  2106359
Hip: Not known - Elbows: Not known
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Breed report

big,masculine,medium stromg,slightly stretched dog witha very good head & expression. high wither,firm hard back ,very good top line,the well laid croup could be a little longer. well devolped fore chest ,optimal front and hind angulation,very good underline . very well pigmented ,correct front,straight front movement,the hinds r bit close,shows far reaching fluid powerful gait with alot of thurst from behind,sound temperament.

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Pedigree

SCHH3

VA2 Hill vom Farbenspiel SCHH3 male

2000
SZ 2058265
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
VA2 Hill vom Farbenspiel

Körbericht (P.Meßler): Sehr ausdrucksvoll, groß, gehaltvoll, mittelkräftig, mustergültige Gebäudeverhältnisse, hoher, langer Widerrist, gerader Rücken, korrekt gelagerte Kruppe, korrekte Winkelungen der Vor- und Hinterhand, ausgeglichene Brustverhältnisse, gerade Front, sehr korrekt in der Schrittfolge zeigt er weit ausgreifende Gänge mit kraftvollem Nachschub, wirksame Rückenübertragung, freier Vortritt. Sicher Wesen, TSB ausgeprägt; läßtab. V. Besondere Vorzüge: Korrektes Höhen/Längen- und Laufknochenverhältnis. Mustergültiger Gebäudeschluß. VI. Beratung für die Zuchtverwendung: Als direkter Mutz-Nachkomme über die Vaterlinie geeignet zur Verbreiterung der Blutbasis.

SCHH3

VA8 VA1(CN) Huppy von Arlett SCHH3 male

1996
SZ 1964660
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
VA8 VA1(CN) Huppy von Arlett

SCHH3, ÉLITE A

V1 Eros von der Luisenstraße SCHH3, ÉLITE A male

1992
SZ 1823810
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Sire
V1 Eros von der Luisenstraße

SCHH3

V Xtra von Arlett SCHH3 female

1993
SZ 1876667
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
SCHH2

V Dasti vom Farbenspiel SCHH2 female

1994
SZ 1917706
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
V Dasti vom Farbenspiel

SCHH3, IPO3, FH

V7 Miro vom Holtkämper See SCHH3, IPO3, FH male

1992
SZ 1832901
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V7 Miro vom Holtkämper See

SCHH2

V Orti vom Farbenspiel SCHH2 female

1992
SZ 1832486
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
V Orti vom Farbenspiel

SCHH2

V Ola vom Akrobat SCHH2 female

1999
SZ 2053063
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Dam
V Ola vom Akrobat

Groß, kraft- und gehaltvoll, gestreckt. Hoher Widerrist, gerader Rücken, korrekte Kruppenlänge- und lage, korrekte Winkelungen der Vor- und Hinterhand, gute Brustverhältnisse, korrekte Front, nicht ganz straffer Vordermittelfuß, gerade Trittfolge, kraftvolle, fließende, raumschaffende Gänge. TSB ausgeprägt; läßt ab.

SCHH3

V Yoker vom Lechtal SCHH3 male

1994
SZ 1911557
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V Yoker vom Lechtal

SCHH3

2X VA2 Karly von Arminius SCHH3 male

1991
SZ 1829910
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
2X VA2 Karly von Arminius

SCHH3

VA3(I) V14 Randi vom Lechtal SCHH3 female

1991
SZ 1811000
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
VA3(I) V14 Randi vom Lechtal

SCHH2

V Hoppel vom Akrobat SCHH2 female

1997
SZ 1988316
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
V Hoppel vom Akrobat

SchH3

V Waronjo von Isidora SchH3 male

1994
SZ 1957374
HD-normal
Sire
V Waronjo von Isidora

SCHH1

SG Vali vom Castellberg SCHH1 female

1993
SZ 1884849
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
SG Vali vom Castellberg



User comments



deafeyez
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:04 am
Mr Imran
although yoker is an excellent dog..but he wont be that help full for breeding in pakistan
we pakistanis like dogs with substance, colors and head(which in my opinion is wrong)
yoker passes in the last 2 fields but he lacks the substance.i saw him on the siger show pak. and he wasnt that impressive wht i had thought he would be..
mr subhani could you please tell wht rank was he on in ULM 2005

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by deafeyez on 18 February 2006 - 11:02

Imran Zia
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 06:39 am
Hi,

I do not want to interfer in you Litus comments, but I have some views about Yoker. I have seen that dog, and I PERSONALLY think the dog has lots to offer to Pakistan breeding.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Imran Zia on 25 December 2005 - 06:12

deafeyez
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:03 pm
i am only giving my Critique what i think about ur dog.. i really appreciate ur remark but every one has the right to give their opinions in any field.......wase ur dog yoker i reall good...where was he placed in the seiger show??

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by deafeyez on 24 December 2005 - 22:12

subhani
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 02:02 pm
dear,
did u saw listus ?if u see him then u don't talk about his rib cage again ,everbody can see the rib cage of listus in his picture nobody can say about his r-cage shortness n read that again because i think u cannot understand the chest n r-cage but i respect ur knowledge thanks .

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 24 December 2005 - 14:12

deafeyez
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:22 am
please read that article and you will get the same thing what i am talking about.....short narrow chest = narrow rib cage = small lung capacity = less stamina..... these are only the basics of the dog.... i hope it will correct your understanding of the anatomy...
in my opinion listus will fail to show the movement which he shows in the dog show if the ring is larger or the judge makes him to move 6 0r 7 times in the ring....
any ways enjoy your dog

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by deafeyez on 20 December 2005 - 11:12

Sport Dog
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:30 pm
Here is a good article on the Kinetics of the GSD based on Anatomy by Linda Shaw.Good information can hopefully lead to better discussion than what's currently happening.

http://www.workingdogs.com/lshaw1.htm

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Sport Dog on 15 December 2005 - 23:12

subhani
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:26 pm
dear....

i think u r in problem to explain the chest narrowness n rib cage connection.
in my view rib cage n chest r equally broad then the dog move smoothly if the chest s narrow its nothing to do with movement.
if u mean the broadness of chest n rib cage they only give the volume ,please explain me ur view ,thanks

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 14 December 2005 - 23:12

deafeyez
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 03:52 pm
sir jee.....ham bhi aap hi ki tarah hain......and by the way the thing regarding nawab...i know u did not write but it is there written by some 1 else...........
Ok!!! regarding the chest.....sir jitna thorra sa ham ko pata hey lemme tell u the ends of the rib cage ends up in the shest that is for sure....the rib cage fails to be broad if the chest of the dog is small...that is the only reasons females fail to get broad... wase subhani i know u really well and u know me to but my identity here should not be disclosed.. i have been with the dogs for past 8 yrz now

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by deafeyez on 13 December 2005 - 15:12

subhani
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:13 pm
dear....

i have never claim i know gsd as a expert if u mind it from my question to faheem then i m sorry but faheem is younger brother for me, i think u r expert in gsd but please tell me hw u relate the narrowness of chest with the widht of a rib cage ,v see the chest from front n rib cage visible from side ,i cant understand hw the front part of the dog effect the side part can u explain me ,for mian nawab ,he s senior to me n i respect all seniors i never wrote anything for him thanks.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 12 December 2005 - 22:12

subhani
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:08 pm
dear....

i have never claim i know gsd as a expert if u mind it from my question to faheem then i m sorry but faheem is younger brother for me, i think u r expert in gsd but please tell me hw u relate the narrowness of chest with the widht of a rib cage ,v see the chest from front n rib cage visible from side ,i cant understand hw the front part of the dog effect the side part can u explain me ,for mian nawab ,he s senior to me n i respect all seniors i never wrote anything for him thanks.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 12 December 2005 - 22:12

deafeyez
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 03:50 pm
this is a reply of subhani's msg on 16 nov 2005 to faheem
subhani sahab.....agar aap ko yeh nahin pata ke chest narrow hone se kia hota hai to lemme tell u....if the chest is narrow the rig cage is smaller...this means the dog gets tired much early.....this does not matter in pakistan as the rings are smaller if the dog is showed in germany then u will come to know what i am talkin about. and if thhe dog gets into a match with some other dog and if asked to move i can bet it will not show his movemnt due to this....
secondly guys dont get personel here....ppl like mian nawab who never replied up here should not be talked about.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by deafeyez on 12 December 2005 - 15:12

tiny
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:33 pm
the national breed wardon of italy gave the comments on listus sons mark,lasso barenecke they can compete in europe also for top position n i think its a great honour for us , listus in lahore with ahmed subhani now.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 12 December 2005 - 12:12

master
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 02:08 pm
any whereabout where and with whom is this dog.

reply to jawad_mahdi@yahoo.com

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by master on 10 December 2005 - 14:12

subhani
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 07:43 pm
dear faheem,
its not a matter of ADMIT,yes dog should have some volume but u never see in any coment for dog where someone say the dog front is narrow,like ur female gilla she is excellent female but i can say about her"she is stretch n her croup lay is so bad" but its a stupid thing i know she is excellent, same case like listus he has some faults but he prove himself n u know very well.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 16 November 2005 - 19:11

tiny
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 04:41 pm
MR.FAHEEM,PLEASE DONT ARGUE WITHOUT SENSE IF U DONT HAVE A ANSWER OF MR.SUBHANI QUESTION THEN GO TO UR NEW TEACHER MIAN NAWAB MAY BE HE CAN TEACH U.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 16 November 2005 - 16:11

Faheem
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:05 pm
Dear subhani,

First u admit this dog narrow.than i reply.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Faheem on 16 November 2005 - 12:11

subhani
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:02 am
dear faheem,

if u saw the dogs n u understand their anatomy then u realise there is no complete dog in the world ,can u tell me whats the disadvantages of the narrowness from the chest hw this effect the performance of the dog?

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 16 November 2005 - 10:11

Faheem
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 08:09 am
Hello,

Mr Khan: pls upload ur female front pic than all see (pls upload ur female pic thanks)

Mr Subhani:Thnaks but what about narrow nes.........

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Faheem on 16 November 2005 - 08:11

subhani
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 04:01 pm
dear faheem

i repeat my question,whats wrong with listus front ,u r so wise but u did not know about the dogs front ,u can read the breed survey report of listus here n in this report its very clear the front is correct ,correct ur knowledge about anatomy ,keep it up ........

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 15 November 2005 - 16:11

khan
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 01:54 pm
hello faheem,

My female chest seems very good from the front.
khan

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by khan on 14 November 2005 - 13:11

Faheem
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:36 pm
hello Mr khan,

Good to see you.what about ur female front? first u see this than reply me.
Thanks

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Faheem on 14 November 2005 - 12:11

subhani
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:49 pm
DEAR FAHEEM,
WHATS WRONG WITH LISTUS FRONT CAN U EXPLAIN IT?
FOR MR.KHAN

CELL NO.03008494559

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 27 October 2005 - 23:10

khan
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 05:09 pm
Listus a good dog i have one female from him she is almost 9 month old can some one give me subahni telephone number asking him about pedigree of my gsd female.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by khan on 27 October 2005 - 17:10

tiny
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:25 am
dear faheem,
what do u think the only thing to see in a dog is front ,first of all please tell me which s a complete dog in the world if not then think about ur comment thanks.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 22 October 2005 - 10:10

Faheem
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 08:53 am
good to see you what about front?

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Faheem on 22 October 2005 - 08:10

subhani
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:42 pm
listus s a very good producer,i take six litters out of him,in every litter he gave 2 or 3 puppies of excellent quality,he gave specially front reach,movement ,hind angulations and colour,there s no doubt about his progeny.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by subhani on 19 October 2005 - 22:10

aghabax
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 04:14 pm
hello danish its me sualeh here . well ill need some time to think about the female well even if i dont get this one, ill stay in contact with you. and are there any plans of more listus litters.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by aghabax on 18 October 2005 - 16:10

aghabax
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 04:10 pm
k chill

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by aghabax on 18 October 2005 - 16:10

tiny
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:09 pm
sir i m a fan of listus,can u see his progeny

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 16 October 2005 - 23:10

aghabax
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 08:40 am
for tiny are u some relative of danish mateen or just a fan of listus

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by aghabax on 16 October 2005 - 08:10

tiny
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:08 pm
breed survey report of listus

big,masculine,medium stromg,slightly stretched dog witha very good head & expression.
high wither,firm hard back ,very good top line,the well laid croup could be a little longer.
well devolped fore chest ,optimal front and hind angulation,very good underline .
very well pigmented ,correct front,straight front movement,the hinds r bit close,shows far reaching fluid powerful gait with alot of thurst from behind,sound temperament.

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 28 August 2005 - 12:08

Mateo
Mateo
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 07:23 pm
Could you put a photo of Listus or indicate me where is possble to see one?

Regards

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by Mateo on 16 June 2005 - 19:06

tiny
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 06:27 pm
BIG TITLE HOLDER DOG OF PAKISTAN IN HISTORY

V1 ISLAMABAD MARCH 04 JUDGE BY ANWER HUSSAIN
V1 KARACHI DEC 04 COL.K M ROY[RTD] RESRVE BEST IN SHOW
V1 LAHORE 04DEC 04 WOLFGANG TOUBER
V1 ISLAMABAD DAWN SHOW 12 DEC 04 SAIF BAIG
BEST IN SHOW
V2 LAHORE DAWN SHOW 21DEC 04 ANWER HUSSAIN
V1 SHIEKHUPURA 30JAN 05 IMRAN HUSSAIN[PRESIDENT GSD CLUB] BEST IN SHOW
V1 ISLAMABAD 13FEB 05 SEIGERSHOW PETER REIKER [BADLUCK HIS ILLNESS]
V1 LAHORE 26MARCH 05 MS.DIANNE RITCHIE[IRELAND] BEST IN SHOW N HIS PUPPYFEMALE WON BEST PUP IN SHOW
HE S EXCELLENT PRODUCER WHERE HIS PUPPIES SHOWN THEY R ON TOP.
HIS IMPORTER N TRAINEE GUIDE WAS MR AHMED VIRK [HE S AUTHORITY ON GSD IN PK N GROUP BREED WARDONN N JUDGE].
THE CURRENT OWNER OF DOG DANISH MATEEN PHONE 00923008210138

CH (PAK) , V Listus vom Hühnegrab by tiny on 16 June 2005 - 18:06



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