by ValK on 11 September 2020 - 19:09
you said "he has never performed a live cover" and strangely no one raised question - is that dog potent to pass own qualities to descendants?
dog can be very good by itself but not necessarily mean to be potent producer.
by Hired Dog on 12 September 2020 - 05:09
by ValK on 12 September 2020 - 11:09
if you look at pedigree tree even most superior dogs, there are not all descendants become top producers.
any mating, if isn't repeat one, to some degree is experimental but i doubt, serious breeder who is looking stud service for good bitch with purpose to produce decent litter, would jump to pay top buck for something unproven and unknown.
by RLHAR on 12 September 2020 - 13:09
It is an unknown and won’t be known until we get a litter which is why I have only asked for pick male and nothing more.
What makes me hopeful is Erik’s dam line. From the research I’ve done Facka appears to have thrown consistency and her progeny are dogs that work. K9, SAR etc. Erik is half brother to Clif Vicona who has produced and the progeny from him I have seen have also been consistent.
My faith is in Facka, and in the health and temperament of my dog. If he brings clear headed, environmental stability and excellent physical health aren’t those good known qualities to start from?
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 12 September 2020 - 14:09
There is zero guarantee and honestly, that is an implied risk that we have to take. Even with known producers it's a risk whether or not this specific combination I have in mind, actually clicks.
by Hired Dog on 12 September 2020 - 15:09
by Koots on 12 September 2020 - 17:09
by ValK on 12 September 2020 - 17:09
above i mentioned repeat mating which gives most assured output.
whatsoever when stud dog prove consistency of outcome by producing satisfactory quantity of good descendants with different bitches, it gives significantly better odds for success even if that a new mating.
as example Ingo. he was very known in DDR to be a strong producer and many of his descendants inherited this potency and itselves did become good stud dogs. must remind, in DDR breeding wasn't commercial enterprise even among civilian population. all registered dogs was surveyed and only those, who showed exceptional qualities been recommended to be used for breeding with particular matching bitches.
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 12 September 2020 - 19:09
From my conversations with people who have actual experience with Facka and her dam line, she is a great producer and mother. A sire from a breeding on Facka has a better than average chance to produce good dogs, IMO. In another thread there is discussion about breeding on a dam line vs sire line - I think it's a better recipe for success to breed on a great dam line.
by rakeshausky on 13 September 2020 - 10:09