Another hypothetical - stud fee? - Page 2

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Koots

by Koots on 10 September 2020 - 00:09

I was going to say that I would expect to pay $1200 - $1500 for a dog of that calibre & genetics, but BE beat me to it. :)

Western Rider (admin)

by Western Rider on 10 September 2020 - 01:09

I see no violation to take it down

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 10 September 2020 - 03:09

RLHAR, Hired Dog is so right; for example I did not respond & post an answer to your OP because I really have no idea, these days, what the average stud fees are for various qualities of dogs even over here, much less in America. Only those who are or may become actively involved in purchasing such services usually are. Ask me half a dozen years ago and I would have been able to give you that comparison / conversion, as I would have been taking an interest. And then others will not be looking for exactly what you are looking for. Seems to me you have been given great advice - to decide what YOU think is worth paying; (or if you have a female to mate how much your ceiling is for what you are prepared to pay; then find the dog you like and NEGOTIATE with his owner. I reckon that is what an awful lot of people do anyway !) In your case, with your male, when you have worked out what you think he is worth (leaving aside the 'pick of litter' element) and if it doesn't sound too unreasonable compared to what you find people have paid for similar services in past years, (IME, rates have not varied wildly in the past), try it out on a few contacts at Club or wherever ("If you wanted to use my dog would you pay X ?") - which should save you from wasting money on paid ads by pitching too high; then if you get a positive response, put that in your ads. Then be prepared to negotiate a little when you get some enquiries.
Bring the price of a puppy back to the table at that point.


As to how tetchy we may be at present : nobody here is immune to what is going on in the world, and sometimes that creeps into what or how we post. 2020 is proving to be an extremely trying year. We all have Covid19 hanging over us; half the USA seems to be aflame, literally or politically; several members have recent losses of people and dogs nearest and dearest to them ... and all that is without the general trials & tribulations of everyday life that may make us grumpy, less responsive and less tolerant. [I for instance have had no e mail for over a month and cannot get it fixed, and rather than a respite, that has become an irritation and inconvenience). So don't give up on us.
 


Entwerfer Haus

by Entwerfer Haus on 10 September 2020 - 04:09

Calm down. I wasn't "attacking" anyone. But then, that's your opinion. I'm sorry you felt that way. It was merely an observation.  How do you think you make me feel saying I "attacked" you?  smh

It did seem like an AD.  You put all that info out there and didn't know the value of your dog?  It seemed to me as if you wanted offers.  I have no idea of your history.

Just wow

Trust me, lesson learned


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 10 September 2020 - 12:09

I was going to say that I would expect to pay $1200 - $1500 for a dog of that calibre & genetics, but BE beat me to it. :)

 

Yes, even most high caliber, national/world level dogs don't cost more than $ 1500, which is why I said "no more". I get a $1000 for Athos and Champ.


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 10 September 2020 - 13:09

Moderators decide what is and is not a classified and as it stands this is NOT.   If any fee is offered and accepted then those comments would be deleted.


by Rik on 10 September 2020 - 16:09

another thing to consider is the cost of AI, which can be considerable if performed by a clinic that specializes in the procedure.

I don't breed, but there are a couple of top dogs/breeders/competitors within easy driving distance of me and I'm pretty rural USA.

it would have to be a very special dog for me to pay both top price stud fee + AI costs.

jmo,
Rik

Dawulf

by Dawulf on 10 September 2020 - 16:09

I would agree that $1200-$1500 would be fair.

Awhile back, I think stud fee used to equal puppy price. Nowadays, since puppy prices have soared, I don't think that is the case any more.

by GSCat on 10 September 2020 - 21:09

Consider any quarantine costs and much higher shipping costs, too. Coronavirus has caused some extra precautions, "you can't get here from there" issues/considerations, and generally slower/costlier shipping overall.

Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to cross the US/Canadian border for a reason totally unrelated to dog breeding, showing, or competition, and it is a mighty big headache. There are even some issues between/among some of the states within the U.S.



RLHAR

by RLHAR on 11 September 2020 - 13:09

Those are really good factors to take into consideration and are the type of factors I was hoping to hear input about. Thank you folks!

I suspected there was more to the equation than just the facts about the dog himself.





 


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