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Prager

by Prager on 04 November 2018 - 03:11

@ Allan1955

Q: I could not believe the argument brought up by members who do not believe in global warming.

A: Nobody anywhere including here claims that there is no global climate change. What we are disputing is the significance of a man-made global climate change.  Since you missed this important detail I would suggest that you read the argument more carefully. Also, these so-called scientists called is global cooling before they called it global warming and before they call that a climate change in order to avoid showing their obvious ignorance of what is really going on.   

QDo you really believe it is a hoax.

A; Iam 99.999% sure.

Q:If so what is the purpose, can you think of a reason for most world scientist are conspiring to fool us why.

A: Again I hate to beat the dead horse. This had been explained here quite adequately so maybe you should go ahead and read the thread again. But I'll answer it simply. First, I would I would reccoment that you ask them, why are they falsifying their measurements, computer modelling and so on. This had been proven in public media. My guess is that most scientists do not want to put themselves on political fringes by saying the truth and thus lose government grants of BS like man-made global change while rather do real science. On the other hand, many other scientists also work for the government directly like in NASA , NOAA and  IPCC and so on thus they want to maintain their cushy jobs and thus toe the line and not sawing the branch they are sitting on. 

Q:Do you really believe that the countries who signed in the Paris climate accord are stupid. Investing billions and educating people about energie consumption because of a hoax?

A: No they are not stupid and they because carbon tax will generate for them trillions in revenues. Follow the money trail.  It takes a genius to tax air an air.   

Q;What if its true, is this the world that i want my grandchildren and their children to inhered.

A: As I have explained here before  - conman depends on your fear. I am not interested in what if's and politicization of air. I am interested in hard scientific data. hard scientific data do not support man-made global warming hoax. Science- even government sponsored science is telling us that we are actually in geological long-term global cooling!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

Q: Are refrigeration gasses CFK or HCFKS causing depletion oft he 0zon layer also a hoax.

A: LOL Do I LOVE THIS ONE. My favorite   Hoax of hoaxes.

If you look at a can of Freon then there is a warning that you should not work in pits under the car when you are charging AC system with Freon. You know why?? BECAUSE FREON IS HEAVIER THEN AIR AND WILL SETTLE IN THE PIT AND WILL SUFFOCATE THE MECHANIC. 

Now please tell me how does the HEAVIER THEN AIR Freon get itself 100 000ft above the earth into an ozone layer where it will eat O3 like a "Pakman" as it was colorfully explained to dummies without critical thinking and basic knowledge of physics. IMO humble opinion this hoax was perpetrated by DuPont. You know how much money DuPond made by exchanging all old car systems with nel refrigerant ?! And do you know thet the new system is much more leak proof so it needs to reachged more often then freon. can you guess how many billions was made just on this lttle scam And how much kickbacks polititans got to sigh this ant Freaon bill.!!!!!

 

A: Do you really think we can keep burning fossil at present rate fuel without consequence.

Q: Since falsification of data provided by  NASA ,  NOAA and   IPCC was necessary I feel safe and I am not too worry, because if the date would be true then their falsification would not be necessary. 

 

A: I remember seeing Trump with a miners helmet and shoveling Cole during the campaign really?

 Q: Yeah I remember how compassionate, intelligent and educated  Trump removed anti coak regulations based on scientific HOAX and gave back miners their job. 


Prager

by Prager on 04 November 2018 - 03:11

Mindhunt:

Prager, the fact you are denying what science is supporting with a hurricane chart that is outdated is too funny.

Prager:  Those are scientific data and measurements. They cannot be outdated they are what they are.

That is unless the hoaxsters manipulated them into more contemporary fake data which better suits to current political desires of hoaxsters to fool all them useful idiots who then clap while politicians manipulate them into doing something they would never want to do voluntarily. 

Mindhunt, BTW I was laughing very, very, VERY hard, when I have read this: "Really Joanro, brainwashed at University?  Where critical thinking skills are a must as is the ability to understand research and be able to tell the difference between facts and opinions?  Sheesh....." I was laughing until I realized that you surely must be facetious. In any case, you made m laugh and that means that my day was not wasted. 


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 04 November 2018 - 23:11

Ruger, apparently my Mac changes fonts presented on this database, I will try the final font presented.  Sorry not all fonts are readable.

Prager so glad to make your day.  I was being facetious.  Also your chart did not include the most current data on hurricanes.  But I think we can agree the most recent ones are doozies.

I think we have all come to the agreement that climate is changing and not for the better.  I think we can all agree something needs to change or we will face some very scary times.  I think we can all agree that we need to do our part no matter if you are in the man-made camp or the naturally occurring camp to slow down climate change.  Enjoy rest of your evening (or whatever depending on your time zone lol).  I am enjoying my very rare cool evening here in Florida, then it goes back up to the high 80's with high humidity.  One of the hottest years so far.......had upper 90's just last week.


by Allan1955 on 05 November 2018 - 09:11

Prager: Take a look around you every single man-made item you see has emitted C02 in one or more stages of its manufacturing . wether it is concrete, metal or plastic. It has been that way sinds the industrial revolution.

Fossil fuel has been our only source of energy.

C02 does not disappear, except absorption by vegetation or the ever depleting rainforest.

If you agree that C02 is a greenhouse gas then you do the math.

The Freon gas Hoax. LOL

Freon was made by DuPont and it is a registered patend trade mark. This has been for decades the only refrigeration gas in the word. the goose with the golden egg.

Yet you claim the hoax is perpetrated by DuPont. First in Montreal protocol, later in the Kyoto protocol. Makes no sense.

Freon is heavier than air correct, don't you think we know that and still it is mandatory to recoup every bit in order dispose of it properly.

Freon on its self practical harmless, it is the chlorofluorocarbon compounds that does the damage.

About government cheating us out of tax money, any evidence? And what are they doing with that revenue? Any suggestion? It is not even plausible without the public knowing.

So why do we dumbos think global warming is man made.

Unnatural amounts of C02.

Polushion

depleting rain forest.

Plastic soup.

on and on. all man made except global warming wright


by joanro on 05 November 2018 - 18:11

Depleting rain forest??? If that has happened, it's because of logging, not climate change.

In actuality, the rainforests are grow expontially because of additional co2 and a 1/2 ° increase in temperature....plants *love* the improvements!!!!


Allen, I didn't say it's a hoax. I said man made clmate change is a scam...to rape the USA of trillions of dollars so that China and india can continue to pollute their air.

Follow the money!!!
Also, you really should watch the video I posted from Life, Liberty and Levin.....explains the truth about the scam.

!!!Follow the money!!!!


by Allan1955 on 06 November 2018 - 09:11

Joan:

I can't watch the video  blocked by YouTube.

The rainforest and the plastic soup are man made that is what i said at the bottom. Never heard of the exponential growth.

However depletion means less trees to take out C02.

About the scam, raping the USA out of trillions.  I guess you are referring to the 100 billion fund that rich countries together, agreed to help developing poor countries with the reduction of their emission.

I suggest reading the actual treaty. No trillions involved.

Stepping out for political reasons, will affect public awareness, delay development of renewable energy.

Public awareness is about consumers demanding cleaner devices, making manufactures invest and develop.

Fossil fuel won't last for ever, someday the world will have to make the transition.

Hope we will have the technology in place by then. There is still a long way to go, any effort today will be beneficial in the future.

When shit hits the fan, there will be no exception.

 

 

 

 


by joanro on 06 November 2018 - 19:11

Plants love co2.

Trillions of dollars involved in the scam.

by joanro on 06 November 2018 - 19:11

I just went to YouTube...the video is playing. Here is the link again.

Mods, perhaps you could embed the video?

 

https://youtu.be/fA5sGtj7QKQ


by Allan1955 on 07 November 2018 - 09:11

Okay i did see the video, information taken from the big swindle video witch has been around for some time. Watched it a couple of times. Nothing new at this point.

The title Swindle implies: Governments cheating citizens out of tax and scientist who support this claim are afraid to loose there jobs.

All orchestrated by the government costing us trillions.

Note: The conclusion, Global warming is fake, so we kan get on with our lives burning fossil fuel as usual.

Wonder who is going to benefit from this. The fossil fuel producers.

And now we are really talking about trillions. Follow the money.

There for their claims does not convince me.


by joanro on 07 November 2018 - 18:11

Allen: Okay i did see the video, information taken from the big swindle video witch has been around for some time. Watched it a couple of times. Nothing new at this point.


Well, ok, then. It's all about who you choose to believe....the swindlers, or facts. I'll stay on the side of facts.





 


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