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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 24 August 2018 - 17:08

Explain how ' man made global warming' are causing the polar ice caps to become larger and thicker than before?

 

Fake news, Joan:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canadian-glaciers-rising-sea-levels-climate-change-1.3985743

Polar bears in Canada are starving to death due to the melting of sea ice, which they need in order to hunt seals, their main prey. 

Because of ongoing and potential loss of their sea ice habitat resulting from climate change, polar bears were listed as a threatened species in the US under the Endangered Species Act in May 2008.

https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/polar-bear

Changes in the Columbia Glacier: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/WorldOfChange/ColumbiaGlacier

Over the past three decades, the terminus had retreated more than 20 kilometers (12 miles) to the north, moving past Terentiev Lake and Great Nunatak Peak. In some years, the terminus retreated more than a kilometer, though the pace has been uneven. The movement of the terminus stalled between 2000 and 2006, for example, because the Great Nunatak Peak and Kadin Peak (directly to the west) constricted the glacier’s movement and held the ice in place.

As the glacier terminus has retreated, the Columbia has thinned substantially, as shown by the expansion of brown bedrock areas in the Landsat images. Since the 1980s, the glacier has lost about half of its total thickness and volume. Rings of freshly exposed rock, known as trimlines, become especially prominent around the inlet throughout the 2000s.


susie

by susie on 24 August 2018 - 17:08

Joanro, I don't think anybody is able to "brainwash" me... 😎

I believe in science, I do have a pretty good education, and I tend to question everything someone is trying to tell me...

That said I tend to listen to all sides, think about it, read a lot ( not based on one or two sources only ) and finally make my own mind.

I guess both of us are too old to see the final truth, but I do worry for my child and it's unborn children.

We are destroying the earth, and we are very good in doing so.


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 24 August 2018 - 17:08

Thumbs UpSusie I applaud you, so very true. Ostrich with head in sand comes to mind with the non believers.

This thread has taken a strange road, lol.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 24 August 2018 - 17:08

Thank you for the support, Mr. Darcy! I was afraid this discussion would get deleted because we are off topic. Confused Smile


by joanro on 24 August 2018 - 17:08

We are not destroying the climate, Susie. And believing science is one thing, but it's quite another believing scientists who are paid political shills ( and in many cases, threatened political shills!)
Just holding a degree does not make those guys honest.

If you want to see things get better for earthlings,
Get rid of the turbines that are destroying birds and the landscape, that are supposed to be the answer to saving the climate.

Get rid of the solar farms that are frying birds and creating reflected heat, increasing the temperature.

Get rid of subsidized corn and soy crops that have turned food into a "renewable fuel" which is many times more toxic for the environment than fossil fuel, because the octane is many times less efficient than fossil fuel!

Get rid of Monsanto, the giant corporation that is poisoning the environment and causing cancer in animals and humans to be ' normal'...Susie, the list goes on....

 

Edit to add: Mr Darcy, one does not have their head in the sand when one is doing research and deciding for themselves, rather than being a member of the " group think" lemings ....being ordered to believe without questioning...shut up and obey!!!!.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 24 August 2018 - 18:08

Joan, remember when it was said "What's good for GM (or the other big three auto makers) is good for the nation?"

The oil and gas interests are extremely powerful, and don't want alternative energy sources to weaken their hold on power.

Back when I was in high school, I did a paper on the energy crisis. I quoted from an article that said every time someone developed a vehicle that ran on some energy source other than gas, one of the Big Three auto makers would buy up the patent for it, and that would be the last time anyone would ever hear about it.

If you think the auto maker and oil and gas companies aren't behind the 'global warming is fake' lobby, you need to look into things a little more deeply.

I studied environmental science in university, and the science behind global warming is really quite simple, and difficult to deny. The role carbon dioxide plays in the heating of the earth has been known since the 1800s:

The existence of the greenhouse effect was argued for by Joseph Fourier in 1824. The argument and the evidence were further strengthened by Claude Pouillet in 1827 and 1838 and reasoned from experimental observations by John Tyndall in 1859, who measured the radiative properties of specific greenhouse gases.[7] The effect was more fully quantified by Svante Arrhenius in 1896, who made the first quantitative prediction of global warming due to a hypothetical doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect


susie

by susie on 24 August 2018 - 19:08

Joanro, the countries fighting against climate change ( including mine ) do pay a fortune, not for the sake of any lobby but for the sake of OUR ( including YOUR ) future, but we are helpless without global support...
Solar and wind power are able to reduce global warming, but they need to become perfectioned, same with earth warmth.

But as long as modern, educated countries like the United States, perfect for development of alternative energies just because of size, wealth, possibilities, are not willing to LEAD the rest of the world, countries like mine may try whatever they want, it won't help...

It's easy to think in decades ( oil, gas, coal ), but it needs a lot of responsibility to think in centuries.

What shall humans do when the oil is gone, and when the earth became a desert?

I don't think you don't care about the future of the earth...


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 24 August 2018 - 19:08

Even Al Gore is changing what he is saying about global warming.


Jessejones

by Jessejones on 24 August 2018 - 19:08

Not going to discuss about global warming. The proof is here, I don’t need to read conspiracy theories.
I do agree with the rest.... about the nightmare of Monsanto/Bayer, I do agree and don’t like wind turbines / and I do agree and don’t like subsidized soy and corn. But global warming is here, and happening at breakneck speed.

Back to HD...
All has been said already on this post, so why keep bantering?

1.) wet dogs with loose skin and ligaments can be more prone to HD.
2.) environment plays a big roll too.

My thoughts for whatever they are worth...
There will probably never be one gene found, it is a multude of genes creating a complex of loose connective tissue.

It is true that the socket and ball are formed according to the pressure put onto them during the first weeks and months of life. Gravity and pressure will form the shape.

This is why when I see a kennel that uses blue plastic kiddy pools for whelping, and keeps the pups there for days, on the slippery surface, I cringe. The first movement toward the dam to feed, is a pushing off with hind legs. This movement in the first weeks is so important and gives the forward push motion on the developing hip joints. Without traction for the back legs, like on a slippery surface, the pups dont have this important hip pressure trigger.

Never keep a pup on a slick wood or linoleum floor surface at home, for at least a year and a half, or ever, if possible. Put rugs down all over the place. Slipping and sliding will create loose ligaments that normally should hold the head in the socket tightly. Sliding around later can even cause probable damage on a dry dog with good hips over time.

Food plays an important role too. Overfeeding is bad. Keep the pup SLIM - very slim. No fat cute pups. Puppy kibble is often too rich for larger breed puppies. Don’t let the pup grow too fast. And, keep the phosphorus : calcium level correct around 1:1 or just a tad slightly more calcium.

Lastly, keep the dog very very slim through out its life. Better for hips and better for the metabolism. We should do the same for ourselves, HA.



susie

by susie on 24 August 2018 - 20:08

Back to HD...😊

Jesse, you are absolutely right about your points no1 and no2...

BUT

according to current science there is no "one gene" theorie, it's about several genes causing HD, and that's what makes it that difficult...

I hate the "blue plastic" pools, too...

BUT

why are not all pups raised like that dysplastic, but perfectly fit into the overall dysplastic percentage of pups born?

Genetics + environment...






 


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