History of epilepsy in pedigree - Page 2

The DPV and rabies vaccine can cause severe reactions which will damage the brain, kidneys, endocrine system and cause lifelong immune system malfunction. I have had 60 dogs in my lifetime and I have seen it with my own eyes and I am a university degreed biological scientist. One of my dogs died at 2 years old as a result of a puppyhood or maternal vaccines while the other had a reaction at 4 months to the rabies vaccine and lived thus far until 8 years of age. The MMR and pertussis vaccines used in humans also cause brain damage and death in humans.  The human measles vaccine protects puppies from distemper  ... that is how closely the measles and distemper vaccines are related?   In my own experience one in 30 well fed and well cared for puppies has had a vaccine reaction.  Puppies given multiple vaccine or vaccine combinations while under environmental stress are likely to have vaccine reactions.  The fact that the government, vaccine makers, veterinarians and vaccine sellers are willing to lie about vaccine deaths and injury should come as no surprise given their motivation.

Bubba, in case one out of 30 of your "well fed and well cared for puppies has had a vaccine reaction" you should think about the genetics of your lines, not that much about vaccines, sorry, but it´s always easier to blame someone or something else.

I am glad today we are able to understand more about vaccines and the pros and cons, but I am more than glad that I ( and my dogs ) are living in an aera of vaccines at all.

It´s a pity you are not able to ask our ancestors - I am more than sure everybody given the choice to vote between vaccine or not would vote for vaccines, simply because all of them lost family and friends to deseases we don´t have to deal with any more BECAUSE OF vaccines.

Thinking about dogs - distemper, hepatitis, and rabies used to be part of life - today you very seldom are faced with these deseases.

Bubba: "The fact that the government, vaccine makers, veterinarians and vaccine sellers are willing to lie about vaccine deaths and injury should come as no surprise given their motivation. "

I am with you about the vaccine makers and sellers, but at least in my country government SPENDS a lot of money for vaccinations, and veterinarians could make the better money with treating sick dogs...

 

The BIG LIE is to immediately dismiss vaccines as a causitive agent for disease or health problems and it is one told billions of times by government, vaccine makers, medical practicioners and vaccine sellers. Epilepsy is caused by brain injury. There is no test to confirm or deny epilepsy. Vaccines cause immune system malfunctions that can injure both human and dog organs including the brain. Vaccines are the primary driver of the yearly checkup due to the lies that veterinarians and politicians tell us that dogs, humans, etc. NEED booster shots for vaccines. The pet owner takes in their dog and spends $ 100+ for less than $10 worth of services and product. Then the veterinarian sells you $50 of heartworm treatment your dog does not need, flea meds or runs a test or two that costs $10 and you pay $100 for .... vaccines are the biggest money maker for veterinarians both directly and indirectly because they get the suckers in the door to be fleeced. Second behind vaccines as a money making scam are pest control products that include heartworm treatmentd that cost nearly nothing to make which also cause brain and neurologic damages that can and do cause seizures. Tick borne diseases and the vaccines for them can also cause seizures. Environment is 90% or more of what causes seizures just as less than 10% of cancers have a genetic cause.

Why did I even post? It´s useless...

Bubba, you don´t need to vaccinate your dogs - simply because there is almost no more rabies or distemper in your neighbourhood. Why? Because most pets are vaccinated...almost no chance to catch something...

Because of people like you others will stop to vaccinate ( be it humans or dogs ) - the result are outbreaks of deseases almost unknown for decades ( like f.e. outbreak of measles over here / several dead persons, mostly children ) - but, hey, who cares - that´s life - why vaccinate ?

Thanks for the information Jenni78. Our pup is currently on a raw diet and we are going to ask our vet to measure the titers so that we can avoid the vaccinations. I'll definitely check out purified water - we have a well system with a filtering system.

Sunsilver - glad to hear your mom's dog lived to 13 years of age. My girl is currently on 2 anti-seizure medications.

Thanks for looking up the pedigree of my dog's grandparents and the history lesson (I'm going to read the articles after dinner).

I wouldn't worry so much about well water, Michaux. I was on city water at the time and it's full of chlorine, fluoride, etc.

If you can wean her off the meds, it would be a lot better for her liver and kidneys. That has to be done carefully, though. I didn't start mine on them, knowing I wasn't cool with the side effects and knowing that once you start them, it's harder to get them off them safely. Mine was a toy breed, very young, and I was told I could get 10 years out of him maybe on the meds. That's about 1/2-2/3 lifespan...not good enough for me, so I started researching and came up with what I told you. Mind you, I did this quickly- I took 48 hours to research before deciding to forgo the meds and try to do it naturally.

I don't know that you'll get anyone to admit to the epilepsy coming from their dogs, unfortunately, which is why I focused on the "here and now" what you can do to help.

http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/healthydiet.html

http://www.pethealthnetwork.com/dog-health/dog-diet-nutrition/study-looks-nutritional-management-canine-epilepsy

Susie, I'm a retire nurse, and am well aware of what the anti-vax crowd has done in the U.S. and Canada, and I've been doing my best to just sit on my hands, and not reply to Bubba. But my patience just snapped... The anti-vax crowd are single-handedly responsible for outbreaks of measles, mumps and whooping cough, and here's the proof. Oh, and I should mention, that some of the patients who got these diseases DIED.  No such thing as 'just measles' or 'just whooping cough' 

My mom was born in 1913, and could tell me stories about friends and neighbours dying of scarlet fever, whooping cough. T.B. and diphtheria.

The Salk vaccine for polio came into use when I was in grade school. It wasn't soon enough for the kids who went on a canoe trip with my husband when he was little. He was the only one who escaped, because he drank a bottle of pop instead of the infected well water the others drank. He met his camp counsellor a number of years later: he walked with crutches, but at least he survived.

Bubba, you want to go back to those days?? How about a nice rabies or distemper outbreak? I've seen dogs suffering from both diseases, and it's not something I ever want to see again.

How soon we forget...

Over-vaccinating is another issue, and I agree we can do better where that's concerned.

Boo Hoo ... how many dogs have gotten sick within the first week after vaccination and their owners have been told by lieing veterinarians that vaccines don't cause illness which is a big fat lie. Many dogs have major and minor side effects within the first month after vaccination. These veterinarians are the same people who sell 12 months per year heartworm treatments that are not needed north of interstate 10 in S Louisiana. The problem with vaccines is that the medical and veterinarian industry has lied so long they can't tell the truth .... too many people and animals have been injured to tell the truth now. Name another industry in the USA that has legal immunity against legal action ... they claim no injury but pay via impossible to win vaccine courts that perform legal gymnastics to pay nearly nothing for dead and destroyed lives. In 2011 the first case in which the vaccine court paid real damages occurred when the secret court paid 61 million us$ for frying the brain of a 7 month old baby girl. Better vaccines will come when companies have to face real damages and payouts based on real science with a jury trial and not some judges in the pocket of the government and the vaccine makers making the judgements. Most cases of vaccine injury in humans never make it to court because the liars in medicine keep the weak minded hypnotized with their snake charming and people just give up because it takes about 7 years to get to a verdict which exhausts the financial resources and patience of most parents. There is no class action in vaccine cases so the poor parents get to fight the government with their money and the government fights the parents with government funds. Dogs are property so dog owners have no chance of winning what will only be replacement value.

I work in a breeding kennel that has about 40 dogs. Granted, I've only been there about a year, but I've owned dogs and cats most of my life, and have YET to see a vaccination reaction severe enough to cause anything more than temporary discomfort to an animal. The one exception was a skunk that had a fatal reaction to rabies/distemper vaccine. This was back in the 1970's when I worked in a vet office. The vet told me vaccines really weren't licensed for use on animals other than dogs and cats, and hadn't been tested on them. 

I don't put unnecessary chemicals into my animals' bodies - I'm far enough north that I don't do heartworm, and my animals are treated for fleas only when I know that they actually have them. The symptoms are hard to miss, I am familiar with their life cycle, and I know how to use a vacuum cleaner to help get rid of them.

Give it a rest, Bubba. I'm tired of your B.S. Vaccine reactions are MUCH less harmful than the effects of the deadly diseases they prevent!