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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 17 January 2011 - 02:01

Daryl and SSG...we also see why few are bothering to breed DDR lines w/proper temperament. It's a vicious cycle; the dogs who have the look better not have the temperament, or they are no longer desirable. Then, when they don't have the temperament, they aren't taken seriously (of course) and therefore not perpetuated responsibly by breeders with any sense.

I do think intentionally breeding a particular "line" is naive and dangerous, especially in the hands of amateurs; complementary traits in all aspects or an outcross w/a real GOAL should always take precedence over "100%" anything.  



One thing I have to say about Elkoorr's post on the outcross that produced that "hard, serious dog" was that it sure was genius! LOL LOL 


SSG be truthful- your pup is only 41.25% DDR

Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 17 January 2011 - 05:01

Yes, a good outcross.  Maybe there is something out there like a Bernd or Bodo Lierberg.  They are honorary DDR since they are in the back end of so many DDR dogs. 

Bernd  

Bodo 

Michele

Ace952

by Ace952 on 17 January 2011 - 16:01

I know someone mentioned a DDR breeder on the east coast and I know there is Connie with Spartanville kennels and another guy in Florida but can't think of his name or the kennel but he is highly recommended.

by zmelli on 17 January 2011 - 16:01

pm for recommendation

by Schaferhunden on 17 January 2011 - 17:01

how do you contact this person

by wrestleman on 17 January 2011 - 19:01

The gene pool is so small now that the DDR lines are always line-bred on 2 or 3 of the same dogs. There where some great ones for sure 20 years ago. But the ones today seldom resemble DDR dogs. There may be some left in South Africa . Baldur sold many of them to the South Africans right as the wall came down . Australia also had a few. We had a great number of them here but unfortunately they where never bred much and the blood was lost. Wolfgang set up the Delaware state police e breding program in the late 80's with all Great DDR dogs but  I am not sure what ever happened to them they had some big , beautiful, serious dogs both male and female  There  is some frozen seamen in Australia and some places from thes dogs but to say that all the dogs you see advertized today as being all DDR  resemble these dogs of years gone by is really not correct. The gene poll is so so so  small . It is a shame, no one knew what they had untill it was gone

Kelly M Shaw

by Kelly M Shaw on 18 January 2011 - 18:01

I agree with wrestleman as to it being a sad shame that they didn't know what they had until it was gone, but there is maybe a handful of people here in the states that do still keep the old DDR lines going either by frozen semen and/or by the pups they kept from the frozen semen as they got old enough they would do natural breedings on. There are Very few of these people so it can be difficult to find them, but they are there.
Kelly
www.boeselagerkennel.com

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 18 January 2011 - 18:01

Well Kelly, they did know what they had, just no one else thought that it was any good.....  like sooooo many other things. The east german job market went down hill, lots of unemployment (my area over 20%), lots of uncertainty as people from west germany claimed back their properties/ houses that had been taken from them at the end of the war as many fled from the Russians to the west block. Bad time for selling pups, many stopped breeding and sold their stock out (just like we did). Even though we had new freedom, it was still a sad and difficult time after the fall of the wall.





 


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