So you have a real protection dog in your kennel ??? - Page 7

How did you reach those conclusions??

Nobody thinks what you wrote except you.

If that's the extent of your knowledge you should have found a new hobby 30 years ago.

Nobody here writes more about the demise of the gsd breed on this forum than you do.

Well Mac the title of the topic does pose the question about "('real') protection" dogs.

Frankly I get worried about people deliberately crossing the big working breeds for one trait and another, to achieve dogs ideal for 'protection work', when no thought is being given to those pups from more or less every crossbred litter that don't make the grade and will be sold on to nubes who have every chance of ending up with a 'dangerous dog' on their hands. At least if you stick to one Breed you have some chance of predicting what you might get; by the time you have mixed in terriers and bull breeds, there is very little to be sure about. It is no coincidence, I'm sure, that many of the child-killing aberation dogs turn out to be of mixed ancestry. That, and the fact they are owned by people who do not understand them and do not take precautions because they do not know what they are doing. And the more that are bred the more chances there are of that combination happening.

Vk - my comments here come from the posts that I have read, including yours. Perhaps you should go back and read the posts again.

When you say “Nobody thinks what you wrote except you” does that mean that you now speak for everyone? How do you know what anyone thinks?

Where is the knowledge in your recent posts? I do not think that you really read any posts properly on this PDB because, if you had done so, you would have read the comments regarding the loss of traits and weakness of character and health issues. To me these comments show a gradual demise of the breed and, IMO, it is a good thing that someone comments on this situation. Here again you have taken it that you speak or everyone.

Mackenzie

Mackenzie, you alone made the ridiculous claims about breed mixing - own it pal.

And yes I agree, you seem to post for no other than to say how bad the breed has become and how great it was in the old days.

Time to step aside, yr kind have no solutions evidently.

vk - Have you read Hundemutter's post which shows concerns about breed mixing and brings out some good points as to why it is better not to do it.

What solutions are you referring to and what are your answers to the them?

Mackenzie

VK you say without sport there isnt even a well to run dry

that might have been the case some time ago, these breeders hardly ever bring in a pedigree dog for breeding and believe me health testing is done more as in sport/pedigreebreeding as otherwise the offspring is un sellable as all police and army require healthtesting

most mixes include GSD to bring clearer head and better detectionskills and mali for drive and agility, at the moment we see a lot of dutch shep mixes as well, I had a lot of good GSD X dutchie mixes last year

the reason this breeding started was simply that there were not enough good dogs coming from the pedigree/sport breedings so it was set up to be able to supplie the demand of police and army dogs worldwide

basically their system looks like the old Czech border patrol breeding that dogs need to be healthy and function well, only this is not limited by breed or breedclubs, and actually some people I work with used to work at borderpatrol back then

Comments from a fence sitter:-

1. Why would somebody want to water down a Malinois by deliberately crossing it with a GSD, and then sell it to someone who wanted a Malinois in the first place?

Cheating for the sole purpose of cheating?

2. Why is it so that what Max von Stephanitz did was sooo right, but anyone else who tries to do the same thing NOW, is sooo wrong?

Have we found the perfect BREED already? Aren't we better equipped now? Or, is it because you think that Max was soo better than you?

Swarm, max wasn't a good breeder and he never trained a dog. He was a good organizer and motivator of people and he wrote good prose. Mack first you need to learn good breeding is good breeding, bad is bad and disastrous is disastrous. Mixed or pure is irrelevant. Let that sink in first. Here is what I breed, calf just sold for 30 grand, heifers got in top 4 in nation.

VK said:  Secondly why do you think prey drive can't be civil or hard, so not even close to true. Why do some people think high prey dogs can't be protective, territorial or sharp, ridiculous.

Exactly this people have no any idea what they are talking about

 

That same experts and idiots who are saying that malinois are only high prey drive

monkeys who are useless for real protection . This same people are hypcrit and have a double agenda they are sellling also malinois with

their ( border blah blah patrol lines)GSD to military and police departments over the world