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Mithuna

by Mithuna on 28 December 2015 - 01:12

My female more than doubled her weight in a year and shes not at all over weight ( just bigger bones and 25 1/2 ins at the shoulder). I inquired from her vet and he says shes not overweight at all, but expect her to gain 5-10 more lbs upon full maturity. First 10 months was Origen LBP and since then raw ( beef, chicken, fish, turkey, rabbit, lamb, chicken ) +  dasaquin, nuvet plus, and nutiva coconut oil.This is how her growth has progressed
4 months: 35.7 lbs
6 months: 56.8 lbs
9 months: 64 lbs
12 months 74 lbs
16 months : 85 lbs

Shes chilling with me before I go for dinner a few mins ago:

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She is line bred on the dog below:

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Mithuna

by Mithuna on 28 December 2015 - 02:12

This dog belongs to an acquaintance in NY . He comes from someone who breeds Czech dogs but not for oversize, but this boy is a solid 121 lbs ( 27 inches tall ). He has dogs like Norbo, Gero, Xero, Chuligan and Pluto. How did he get so big? He has a  " big ass " head. He is low to medium prey but an intimidating defense.

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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 December 2015 - 10:12

@Mithuna:  Teeth SmileCry Smile   ROFL


by hexe on 28 December 2015 - 19:12

Sorry, but dogs that large ARE oversized, and do not fit the breed standard. They lack the agileness of dogs that fall within the standard, which makes them far less suitable for the variety of jobs the breed built a well-deserved reputation for performing admirably...it's like trying to run a Percheron on a racetrack meant for Thoroughbreds.

Bigger is NOT better--it just takes up more space, eats more, poops more, and is slower than a dog that falls within the standard for size and weight. And sadly, when the dog is aged and needs some help navigating stairs or getting into vehicles, that excess size and weight may be what determines when 'it's time', not because of the dog's health, but because the owner can't lift the dog by themselves.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 28 December 2015 - 22:12

Hexe

Its not true that large dogs aren't fast. Ill give you a head start and Ill bet any of those dogs will catch you before you cover 10 meters. There is a male Rott ( Bosco ) at our club ..he's easily over 100 pounds but he's airborne most of the time, and in practical everyday life you wont run away from him either.

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 28 December 2015 - 23:12

They may be fast, but I bet they're not as fast as they would be if they were "standard" sized.

Christine

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 28 December 2015 - 23:12

Chris

Large does not equal fat. Muscle tissue is more dense than fat , and a well muscled dog may weigh heavier than a dog of same size with a different weight distribution. A well conditioned muscled dog ( though heavier ) can have way more than needed explosive power for practical purposes.
The idea that a standard size dog is automatically faster than a heavier dog i completely unfounded.

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 29 December 2015 - 01:12

Not unfounded. The larger dogs tend to be moving great amounts of mass without having proportionally greater amounts of energy or force to move it faster. Due to inertia, smaller dogs of similar structure (that is GSD vs GSD, not GSD vs Pug) are going to be able to accelerate, turn, and brake faster. There's a point of diminishing returns as far as speed/strength increases/decreases when a dog gets too large or too small.

Christine

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 December 2015 - 02:12

christine

look up the vital stats of the top athletes that run races under 400 m and those running the 800 and above. The former has greater body masses but they also have greater thrust forces which allow them greater acceleration and terminal velocities.

My initial point is that for everyday practical purposes  a large dog can get to the target very quickly. I see this all the time.


kaitlinmarkitori

by kaitlinmarkitori on 18 January 2016 - 04:01

agree with Christina...

i have a little, actually underweight slow grower, he is 20months now and weights 60pounds.... weird more if i tell u: in his mum's -he is grand grand son of Vegas du haut mansard and in his Dad's he is grand grand son of Furbo degli achei.... he is the smalest GSD i have out of 3, but the best dog for sports and protection. fast like lightning and breaks so that both his heels are in scabs.... amazing pup, super intelligent and sharp, can't wait till he is 4-5y o -in the sence that he will shape up nicely. no satin balls, no amount kibble or raw puts him on weight....he eats like x 2times my 5y o female.... but nothing changing, he is extremely energetic.

Another pup i have is 24mnths old, he is 90pounds. he is long and tall and HUGHE head...very lean, more on a skinny size, vet reccommended...But let me tell u- by the time he just pick up the speed, my little one already back with retrive....so, this is in regards to the difference in size and weight....it is not theory, guys, it is alive statistics...


i actually think that the photo the original thread starter posted: the dad of ur girl-he is grossly overweight -big time. he is, sorry, but like a trunk... no shape, he s just hanging on that sleeve overwhelming the man with his weight, but nothing else...and try not to argue with me, he is NOT fat: look at his head and neck... he is overweight big ti
this is not a standard of breed.

Yes, Christina, i agree, if GS it should be standard.... size, weight.

when i read ads sometimes: we breed BIGGER size of GSD.... my hair stands up all over... then u breed NOT a GS...u know what i mean...








 


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