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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 19 October 2015 - 05:10

2 Timothy  4, v. 4:

"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."


1Ruger1

by 1Ruger1 on 19 October 2015 - 16:10

I've missed you people!!! ,,,,,,,Glad to see not much has changed ; nope not a bit! 


Shtal

by Shtal on 20 October 2015 - 00:10

Mindhunt, I agree what Red Sable said, but I also wanted add that science, some people say science is limited to testing natural explanations which is actually limited on science - which means beyond science – all those other things, matter of fact can be real that science cannot get out with its methods. Some people believe do not define science as limit on method but the limit on reality, there is no supernatural. Once you adopt that definition of science you actually using apply materialistic philosophy to explain the world. And the evidence ultimately is just window addressing.
Well in fact intelligent design in a given case you believe it is proven wrong; we basically operate in our daily lives using three modes of explanation. One is we can attribute something to natural law? Natural regulatory, formation of crystal, the ripples of sand, in the sand of beach or something; and another motivated explanation is chance something happened by chance, you know particular outcome of a role of the dice and rule that wheel. And the third motivate explanation that we all use in our daily lives sometimes unconsciously is design; we heard something occurred intentionally, deliberately by the intelligent agent. You see we can use those three modes of explanations to account for things in the world of nature as well. Design infernos can be defeated if in fact you can show something was produce by natural law or some combination of the natural law and chance that defeats the design infernos and you do that with evidence which in fact your evolution education system trying really hard in that perspective.

Mike D

by Mike D on 20 October 2015 - 01:10

Shtal,

1st-I have no idea what you were attempting to say in the paragraph above. Totally incoherent.

2nd- regarding you bible quotes on pg. 5-you can not use bible verses as a citation on the validity of the bible.

3rd-in a partial sentence from above you seem to be saying that science claims to have disproved intelligent design. This is not true. Science does not bother itself with ID for the most part. ID along with all the other belief systems are just that-belief systems that can not be tested and are un-falsifiable. Science can not gather evidence to support or refute religions, so most scientists ignore it and concern themselves with the natural world, and gather evidence supporting or refuting testable hypotheses.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 20 October 2015 - 01:10

The intelligence of the designer leaves a lot to be desired.


1Ruger1

by 1Ruger1 on 20 October 2015 - 03:10

"The intelligence of the designer leaves a lot to be desired."

How so GSD? Can you give an example? 

 


Shtal

by Shtal on 20 October 2015 - 04:10

Mike D. wrote: Science can not gather evidence to support or refute religions, so most scientists ignore it and concern themselves with the natural world, and gather evidence supporting or refuting testable hypotheses.

 

I know you mention about Darwin before in your posts and foundation about Darwin what he believed and I do think Darwinian evolution should be taught in science classes, I think it should be taught honestly with a full acknowledgement of the problems it has with the evidence and it has many. I do NOT think it should be eliminated at this point, although I think in fact carries a lot of atheistic baggage that does NOT belong to the public schools. I would love to see the public schools turned into private schools - myself. But in the meantime I think Darwinism should be taught but it should but taught critically rather than as doctrine that cannot be question.


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 20 October 2015 - 04:10

Ruger,

I can give many but what is the sense. We will just have to agree to disagree on these topics and I am good with it.

I can leave you with this.  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151019154153.htm

 

 


GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 20 October 2015 - 04:10

Shtal, you conveniently ignore my questions, why is that? Why can't you honestly answer?

Mike D

by Mike D on 20 October 2015 - 11:10

Shtal,

You wrote:

"although I think in fact carries a lot of atheistic baggage that does NOT belong to the public schools."

like what?

Mike





 


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