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guddu

by guddu on 08 March 2014 - 20:03

Agree...breeders think that the pet owner deserves the weakest puppy. Problem is somebody has to get the weakest pup. Breeders OTOH will argue, everybody gets the pup most suitable for them!.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 09 March 2014 - 04:03

Cayen:     Hank is Dessert Dog ....One nice man with a wonderful wife who cooks well, looks well and is a christian lady after my own heart...We visited them in November and stayed at his home  He knows his Czech dogs and has proof in his back kennels.

Hi Mrs  Hank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YR

by Tabby on 09 March 2014 - 07:03

@Ibrahim

"In a litter, not all puppies would be of equivalent quality."


@guddu

"Agree...breeders think that the pet owner deserves the weakest puppy. Problem is somebody has to get the weakest pup. Breeders OTOH will argue, everybody gets the pup most suitable for them!."


If the whole litter is suitable for XYZ and the price is all the same for everyone, doesn't that strongly suggest from the breeder that there are no lesser or weaker pups? For example going back to the car analogy, I would definately not be happy paying the price of a Chev Corvette for a Chevy Cruze.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 09 March 2014 - 09:03

Ok Tabby ... so whaddyawanna DO about that ?

No one trying to sell a litter is going to write:
"I have five pups for sale. I have bred them for 'xyz'
but none of them might actually end up being in
'xyz';  it depends who buys them and what they do
with them as much as genetic possibilities."

Real snappy and attention-getting ad., that is !  However honest.

What was that a poster told you earlier about "BUYER BEWARE" ?
What was that someone else mentioned about using COMMON
SENSE ?  What's that saying about "There is no such thing as a
free lunch" ?  Or "If it LOOKS too good to be true, it probably IS too
good to be true."

Consumer legislation can help avoid the excesses of some misdirection
through advertising, ... but are you really looking for a situation where every
word of every ad is censored by someone, in case anybody reading it is too
stupid to fill in the blanks for themselves ?

 

vtgsd

by vtgsd on 09 March 2014 - 13:03

I agree with Hank. 

  Most breeders who have been breeding for any length of time should have some sort of an idea what a breeding pair will bring to the table along with what they're striving to produce. Even more so with a repeat breeding. So, NO it's not false or misleading. They're stating based on experience and knowledge of bloodlines what the pups they have will be best suited for. Nothing wrong with that! 

 

Hired Dog

by Hired Dog on 09 March 2014 - 14:03

What it does suggest tubby is that you are looking to pay ford pinto money for a corvette or you have no idea what you want or you want nothing but to argue to prove some point.
None of the answers given here seem to satisfy you, it seems to me, you are looking for arguments or to philosophise, good luck.

by beetree on 09 March 2014 - 14:03

Tabby, 

What you need to do going forward, is be clear with any seller, that you do not want an inferior puppy if you are at the same time, paying the superb price. You can as Hired Dog says, argue and philosophize, but at the end of the day, it makes sense to take an approach that will result in you getting what you want.

I happen to share your ideals however, and do think that the attitude that inferior dogs automatically should go to pet owners, is pretty obnoxious at the core. Often the most troubling issues are then laid at the feet of the least experienced, who soon learn how clueless some breeders really are, BTW! Think about it, if all the imperfect dogs are by necessity "placed" elsewhere to maintain the perfect breeding specimens, who really is the expert? Note I said, "SOME", not all breeders. So when you do find the breeder who is the real deal in knowledge of pedigrees, training, trialing and health issues, you kiss your lucky stars and never let them go!

Also realize too, if you do become known as the sort to be prone to buyer's remorse, that reputation will shut doors for you automatically and narrow your selection for you.
 

by Nans gsd on 09 March 2014 - 15:03

Be aware that not all breeders want to deal  with"teaching and training" newbies.  So you may run into this problem also.  Just move on.  Best of luck 

by Cayennturbo on 09 March 2014 - 15:03

My first GSD came from showline and the kennel did have varrying pricing.  Pick of litter was more just for that privelidge.   Also prices went up based on breeders expectations of how the dog would show.  The there was absolute pet quality........ much cheaper.  I had no intentions on showing, honestly I just wanted a classic looking saddle back with rich colors.  I had seen to many washed out GSDs, GSDs of poor structure etc.   My dog had disqualifying show issues which meant nothing for pet dog and I paid accordingly, vs the thousands +++++ for pick of litter for show dog.

You are looking at "Working Dogs" so think of it in terms of people.  Some people are just genetically predetermined to be great at sports or school.  Nothing is guarateed, but the likelyhood of  2 bubbas from the boonies having a Rhodes Scholar or Olympic athelete is not that high.....Honey Boo Boo Child is proof of that.





 


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