Neo's Hips done for o.f.a - Page 2

Ok, Now i'm confused, I traveled down southern Maine to a different vet. This vet didn't know I had Neo's hips done @ 17 months old and that the results from ofa was mild.Well when he explained what he sees in the xrays was the same as what ofa results read. I then told him the results from ofa.So I figured he knew what he was talking about.He wasn't going to send the xrays in but i told him too for garauntee on the pup. I will be calling him this morning to see if they were sent in yet.I don't think they would've been because it was so late in the day.
Ok I live in Northern Maine last exit on I-95. alittle town called Houlton. Does anyone know of a good vet that has experience with ofa or is there anyway I can find out who has had success with positioning for ofa?
Thanks
Steve
oh here is his pedigree maybe someone sees something in his lines.
www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=745697
 

IMO these xrays do not need to be done again, they are diagnostic.  OFA wants to see at least 50% of the head retained in the socket, that's not going to happen with Neo.  There are now a few minor remodeling changes in the right hip and another xray won't disguise that either. He will most likely get another OFA unilateral mild rating.

I wouldn't read too much into why he has one mildy dysplastic hip. He has a very nice pedigree with a strong background of sound hips and he appears to be a very attractive dog. Few litters of GSD's are 100% free of HD, it's the nature of the beast. There is nothing that should stop you from training him in any venue you wish if that's you goal. Odds are great that this dog will remain sound for his entire lifetime. I myself have bred MUCH worse hips out of 3+ generations of OFA normal dogs. It happens; it's another way that Mother Nature keeps dog breeders humble.

Totally agree with Blitzen!  (To keep us humble - I like that.)  Your boy should be fine for whatever you choose to do... hips aren't BAD.  Like his pedigree and he's a beautiful boy.  While it may be POSSIBLE that in perfect positioning or when older he MAY pass, I wouldn't count on it, and if he's just a pet or working dog anyway it wouldn't be worth the extra time and money to get it.  Even IF you can get a passing number on him, I wouldn't use him for breeding as there are so many other studs out there that easily passed and aren't in this "gray" area.  But that's just my opinion.

Sorry, think they will go mild. ball sits in socket less than 50% and may have some slight changes in the socket as well.

zigzag wrote:

"oh here is his pedigree maybe someone sees something in his lines.
www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=745697"

The Sven/Sindy pairing was NOT a good one for soundness of hips, even though separately each apparently produced well enough. Seeing that in the pedigree, with the added 'flair' of doubling up on the S-litter Schaferliesel by having Sally Schaferliesel on the dam's side, would have suggested to me that I purchase health insurance from one of the companies that covers hip dysplasia at the same time I purchased a pup from that breeding--I'd be expecting hip issues, frankly, and be pleasantly surprised to see results indicating that there is only mild dysplasia.  

Although some have claimed that the SV actually banned any further breedings between Sven & Sindy after three litters because of the hip problems, no one has been able to show any confirmation of that ban--but the hip issues are real enough based on x-ray results and combined ZW scoring for the pairing.

Even if this dog had perfect hips himself, I wouldn't breed him.  

Nice pedigree on paper, if someone doesn't know the idiosyncrasies of those dogs, production-wise. 

 

I am confused. None of the x-rays shows which site is what (L vs R). Presumingly when they are unmarked the one to the right site is the Left hip. The pathology of both x-rays however is different, meaning the problem seems to be on the other hip in each film. And OFA rated the R site, when it appears to be the L one?

Elkoor, I wonder the same thing, but figured that zigzag probably inadvertently reversed one of the views either when photographing it or uploading it.

Oh, and zigzag, the first films, the one done @ 17 months, is a much better radiograph because the positioning is correct, the femurs are straight and the stifles well-rotated. I'd use that vet for OFA films over the second one, based on this comparison.