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Karon Melillo dVega

by Karon Melillo dVega on 15 January 2014 - 16:01

LEA VON SONNENBERG HOF
​is this German Shepherd Dog Female's Official AKC Registered Name 
AKC DL741634/05

Karon Melillo dVega

by Karon Melillo dVega on 15 January 2014 - 17:01

reply to Hundmutter


I am surprised you would place a "warning" flag on my beautiful "L" Litter Female as there is no cause or warrant.  You did not contact me personally and all information in her pedigree is accurate and correct.

by Gustav on 15 January 2014 - 17:01

Smh!

Karon Melillo dVega

by Karon Melillo dVega on 15 January 2014 - 17:01

Dear GSD Lineage,
In reply to your comment:  

 
The full siblings have another kennel name. ( Sonnenberg Hof ​). 
 I'm not sure if this dog's name ( Lea von Sonnenberg Hof ) was changed after the breeder sold it, or if this is a full sibling with a reg number error.
essentially, you are correct, this German Shepherd Dog Female's Name was illegally changed after I sold her to the Buyer, Chip Helmer, and AFTER He and I Signed and Entered into a Sales Contract including/and with a Receipt from Von Sonnenberg, LEA VON SONNENBERG HOF, born in my Von Sonnenberg "L" Litter with my Kennel Name, Von Sonnenberg, as her Surname, and AFTER Chip took Lea home.

Lea von Sonnenberg Hof
Breeder:  Karon Melillo
Original Owner:  Karon Melillo
AKC Registered Number:  DL741634/05
New Owner:  Chip Helmer 29 August 1997



 

CMills

by CMills on 15 January 2014 - 17:01

The litter owner would, essentially, be her first owner, she had her from birth to 8 wks. Then apparently she was sold with her AKC registration application to Chip, who would in essence be her second and final owner.

northwoodsGSD

by northwoodsGSD on 15 January 2014 - 18:01

Karon,

You do realize that unless the breeder registers each puppy individually, that the new puppy owner can register it under whatever name they choose. If you only do a litter registration with AKC, that will not stop the new owner from changing the dogs name.

Maybe that is what you did, I can't tell from your wording.

CMills,
yes that's what I got out of it also. The breeder sold pup & sent it home with the AKC APPLICATION, not an actual registration/owner transfer form. 
There is no way to make the new puppy owner use a specific name, unless you register the pup before sending it to the new home. 
AKC rules even state that the breeder can not demand the pup be named a specific name, once in possession of new owners.

susie

by susie on 15 January 2014 - 18:01

Off topic right now, but maybe it´s time to change the whole AKC registration system - one dog, one name / one breeder / one kennel name.
This kind of name changing is confusing and not helpful.
 

Karon Melillo dVega

by Karon Melillo dVega on 15 January 2014 - 18:01


I am the original Litter Owner.
and yes, First Owner.
I sold this lovely female to Chip, who became Lea von Sonnenberg Hof's second Owner.
No record is given (at this point) to Lea's "final owner"






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by CMills on 15 January 2014 - 17:58

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The litter owner would, essentially, be her first owner, she had her from birth to 8 wks. Then apparently she was sold with her AKC registration application to Chip, who would in essence be her second and final owner.

Karon Melillo dVega

by Karon Melillo dVega on 15 January 2014 - 18:01

Reply from Karon Melillo DeVega:

"Karon,

You do realize that unless the breeder registers each puppy individually, that the new puppy owner can register it under whatever name they choose. If you only do a litter registration with AKC, that will not stop the new owner from changing the dogs name.

Maybe that is what you did, I can't tell from your wording.

CMills,
yes that's what I got out of it also. The breeder sold pup & sent it home with the AKC APPLICATION, not an actual registration/owner transfer form. 
There is no way to make the new puppy owner use a specific name, unless you register the pup before sending it to the new home. 
AKC rules even state that the breeder can not demand the pup be named a specific name, once in possession of new owners."

Thank you for your reply.  When I sold her, I issued a SALES CONTRACT which is Signed, this Sales Contract is detailed and stipulates many things, including this specific female dogs AKC Registered Name, WHICH, by the way, she is from my "L" Litter, and I gave the Buyer the right to CHOOSE a First NAME which begins with the letter "L" and Chip chose LEA.  Our Sales Contract is Legal and Binding.  Agreed Upon.

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Dear CMills,
I sold this female pup in 1997 with a Sales Contract, signed by the buyer, Chip Helmer.  The Buyer, Chip Helmer, chose her first name, LEA, and AGREED to my Kennel Surname, Von Sonnenberg.  Lea von Sonnenberg Hof WAS WRITTEN onto her original AKC Registration Transfer Application at the time that Chip Helmer was here in my home and all papers were signed!  ANY CHANGES are forged.

by zdog on 15 January 2014 - 19:01

So is this dog posted on web sites and pedigree databases with fake titles or not??? I dont give a **** about sales contracts and other fluff. Are pictures of this dog being used and fake titles associated with it? **** the sales contract, show me the scorebook :)

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