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by Blitzen on 29 June 2013 - 17:06
For me, this study would be more meaningful had there been others breeds involved and had there been a control group. Some lines of Goldens are genetically predisposed to cancers and HD. There may have been some better choices than Goldens, maybe a mix of different breeds? The same breed wouldn't have been nearly as troubling for me had there been a control group of their siblings followed for the same length of time.
I've spayed and/or sold pet bitches on contracts to be spayed prior to their first season mainly to prevent breast cancer, none had any health issues that could have been attributed to early spaying. I've ask here and on 2 other dog boards if any of the members had dogs that were spayed young that developed any serious health issues, none had other than incontinence. Has anyone reading this had that experience or do you know anyone who has?
I never really cared much about neutering males at any age.
I've spayed and/or sold pet bitches on contracts to be spayed prior to their first season mainly to prevent breast cancer, none had any health issues that could have been attributed to early spaying. I've ask here and on 2 other dog boards if any of the members had dogs that were spayed young that developed any serious health issues, none had other than incontinence. Has anyone reading this had that experience or do you know anyone who has?
I never really cared much about neutering males at any age.
by vonissk on 29 June 2013 - 17:06
Thanks. You know it's not only talking till you're blue in the face but also when the people come to get their pup, they are usually so wired and excited they can't keep up with anything you say. So I talk to them show them all the dogs and then go over what is in their folder, we do the contract and they are on their way. And I do know they go over what's in their folder cause I always write up a paper with their schedule and put housebreaking tips at the bottom. I always tell them if you follow this schedule, your puppy will be housebroken in no time. So that's how I know they do because they always brag how fast they were housebroken. Like everyone else I want to do the best by my dogs and I will do the right thing when it is proven to me what that right thing is and why.................not cause I said so.........
by SitasMom on 29 June 2013 - 18:06
Ovarioectomy vs. Ovariohysterectomy: Which Way to Spay?
http://vetmed.illinois.edu/petcolumns/petcols_article_page.php?PETCOLID=2529
I found this to be interesting.....
http://vetmed.illinois.edu/petcolumns/petcols_article_page.php?PETCOLID=2529
I found this to be interesting.....
by Blitzen on 29 June 2013 - 18:06
Sure, that's what it's all about, doing the right thing based on actual experience. I'm not suggesting that early neutering may not be detrimental, I would just like to see results that don't suggest that they could have been skewed by only using one breed. It doesn't matter to me personally, I will never breed another litter and I most likely have my last dog that was recently spayed at 5 years. It's just good to look at it from a different angle. Years ago a good friend worked at the National Institute of Health in DC. You would not believe how they manipulated statistics for many reasons mainly to bolster the drug manufacturers who were their donors. Interesting discussion in either case.
by ziegenfarm on 29 June 2013 - 18:06
like i said in another thread: i choose to let my dogs remain intact unless they have a problem.
pjp
pjp
by Bhaugh on 29 June 2013 - 18:06
Once again I have to point out that Golden Retrievers have probably one of the highest cancer rates among breeds. Pick a breed that has a lower rate of cancer and do studies. I think the studies are flawed since goldens are riddled with this disease
Barb
Barb
by Blitzen on 29 June 2013 - 18:06
Me too, Barb.It's like picking IWH's for a study on osteosarcoma.
by fawndallas on 29 June 2013 - 22:06
The study that I looked at about a year ago used Goldens also. I too wish they would do a similar study with other large breeds.
by hexe on 29 June 2013 - 23:06
And yet another new study, this one done by Hoffman, Creevy and Promislow @ University of GA School of Veterinary Medicine in Athens, GA, appears to have found that neutered and spayed dogs enjoy an increased lifespan when compared to that of their reproductively-intact brethren.
It's not enough to read the abstracts, or the summarization of a study by someone else [it can't be denied that the Mercola website has a specific agenda]--you have to read the actual studies themselves, and see what the methods used were, where the data originated from before one can begin placing weight on the findings. Here is the UC Davis study, for a better understanding of what the findings of that project do, and do not, tell us.
It's not enough to read the abstracts, or the summarization of a study by someone else [it can't be denied that the Mercola website has a specific agenda]--you have to read the actual studies themselves, and see what the methods used were, where the data originated from before one can begin placing weight on the findings. Here is the UC Davis study, for a better understanding of what the findings of that project do, and do not, tell us.
by joanro on 30 June 2013 - 00:06
Mercola has a specific agenda... I suppose the vet school does too.
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