Bomber vom wolfshiem - Page 6

Hey Paul, I agree on Noditha. Aside from Bomber and Bandit, this female produced Agent vom Wolfsheim which is a really nice dog as well.

I've checked Noditha....own a Bandit daughter that I'm getting ready to put a BH on....I get the easy impression comment as, I work dogs. I've seen both Bomber sons T was working.

Judron55

I have not seen Bandit or any of his offspring (but would like to) but I have seen a few of Bombers and have not seen anything I do not like. Not meaning that they would be what I want in a dog, but very nice none the less. From another view I have not heard of a single Bomber dog that turned out to be a shitter either, but there is plenty of time for that too. He seems to be pre-potent and if that is the case it would be very easy to get a good dog off of him. Now lets see what his offspring reproduce. Time will tell, it always does. Not everything that glitters is gold.

Gold in the raw is dull, so to the untrained eye goes unnoticed.

vk4gsd, you are correct that the same genes are present in a repeat breeding, but it is not the same as cloning. In cloning you are duplicating the exact genes in the exact sequence. Just because you do a repeat breeding does not mean that the genes will align in the same way and create similar results. This is due to the fact that there a thousands of possible genetic combinations that can occur in every breeding. Your chances are better using the same parents because of the same genes, but this is not a for sure thing. That's why so many repeat breeding haven't produced the same quality progeny.

ramgsd
Correct repeat breedings do not throw out the same Just as in the human element; Some of my Brothers and Sisters inherited much more in the brain department than i did. only by Cloning can you replecate the same Genes as said by ramgsd
Steve1

ram, thanks, i get that everything is complex but is there such thing as a measure of closeness in the alignment even theoretically? i mean if we can't achieve much "closeness" from the same parents in a repeat mating thenit kind of makes genetic diversity and out-crossing or even breeding within a family resemble more of a random/chaotic process, i don't even know what i am trying to say.

there is closeness much in farm animals eg pigs, cattle, sheep, chicken, fish...in fact the growth rates, phenotype, parasite resistance and a million other things is effectively 100% predictable with only minimal variation/deviation, i know cos i know so many people that budget and bank on the predicted returns of these animals profit margins are snall hence if the animals do not perform as predicted they go bust quick, they do not expect or see much variation and they deal in many hundreds of babies, millions if you count over a whole industry not just an individual operator.
 
why dog so more random?

i know kennels that became famous cos out of breeding along just nicely and quietly a super dog emerges from a litter and the kennel is suddenly a household name, that's kind of a random process as well.
 

vk4gsd
Livestock breeding is very different in a lot  of ways. It is mostly structure and all are food. In livestock you eat your culls, and even the culls can reproduce food. All of the other benefits are real nice and cost saving and fetch more money but are not necessary to become their main objective, food.  Every single one is different.

In our type of dogs we breed, brains, structure, correct size, abilities,( lots of different abilities)  coat, tail, character, teeth, jaw, nose, ability to track,bite, run, stop and be a pet. ect ect ect.  Then we want to put in to one package and breed it to be the same exact thing. It will never happen for many reasons. We do not eat our culls in fact we breed our culls.

I can tell you about several different breeds of cattle. Can you tell me about the GSD? (please don't) because for every thing you tell me about the breed I can show you many examples that are way different, in looks abilities and temperament. For example..The GSD is a herding dog....Most are not. They are protection dogs......Most are not. The are friendly dogs......Many are not. ECT ECT

Here is a Bomber female.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=376864092415507&set=vb.100002757578350&type=2&theater

Would someone teach me how to make links clickable please

If a repeat breeding does not produce the same quality as the first litter, and is totally different without the desired repeated traits as that first litter; then I would say the parents did not click and there was no niche in the pair. That happens sometimes. Some matings produce a fluke, or a random quality pup, which cannot readily be duplicated.