Bomber vom wolfshiem - Page 3

Just two dogs?  Those are just two recent examples.  If you want more examples, Ivan - a Bomber son - came in 4th in the AWDF just last month.  Ali - another Bomber son - came in 13th.


Besides that, Bomber is only 7 years old.  He is still relatively young himself, and his progeny are still youngsters when it comes to the sporting world.  His offspring are just now starting to hit an age capable of competing at the upper echelon of the sport.  You will see more and more at the top with each passing year.

By no means am I saying this is the only good dog out there, but before you make a statement like, "there hasn't been a whole lot of top competition IPO dogs shown off of him," you better do your homework.

And RAMGSD, if you don't know what the national team is, then I feel I am wasting my time even addressing your question, but I am talking about the U.S. National Schutzhund team.  2 out of the best 6 dogs in the U.S. are Bomber sons.  Can you name another dog that make the same claim?  Of course you cannot.  Just exactly how many of the top 6 dogs in the U.S. does it take to meet your world famous dog trainer seal of approval?

 

AGAIN that's 2 DOGS. PERIOD. The exact same 2 dogs that were mentioned in my last post. T's dogs. Bomber was bred when he was 2yrs old. That means he has offspring that are now 5yrs old. Old enough to have made a big name for themselves.

Yes I know what our NATIONAL TEAM is. As a matter of fact I was at this years Qualifier. There are NO BOMBER OFFSPRING on the USA team this year. and there WASN'T ANY on the 2012 TEAM either.  So where are these national team Bomber offspring you speak of????

Also, Gary Hanrahan who has won more nationals than anyone, and who owns Drago Vom Patriot, just bought a Bomber son and two Bomber daughters.  If you want to be successful at anything in life, then follow the actions of the most successful people in life.

Gary is a great business man. If there is a market out there can't blame him for taking advantage of it. That still doesn't make a dog a good producer.

I noticed you didn't acknowledge YOUR MISTAKE (I assume it wasn't deliberately providing false info.) thinking that there were not 1 but 2 Bomber offspring on the "NATIONAL TEAM" which is actually called the USA WORLD TEAM. When actually there are NONE.

Perhaps Bomber will become a great producer. Lord knows he has the breeding for it. Unfortunately at this point he wouldn't be in the running with many of the dogs that were listed earlier. You yourself, an obvious Bomber fan, could only name 2 offspring. Where are the rest? If and when there are others that come along I'll be the first to say great job. I always give credit where credits due. But only when it's due.

Hey guys, let's just let the boy be the hero that he is.  Let's not make this a Bomber pissing contest;  it totally degrades the dog.  JHC.  Go work your dogs.

LMAO. I have to laugh at the OP for trying to convince ramGSD. I think as people we have to accept it when someone doesn't like you; your dog or accomplishments! The first argument was Bomber's son's aren't even IPO certified; then the bomb dropped that two were on the national team then the argument shifted to "two dogs good dogs from a progeny of 160 says it all". Nothing said hear will convince this ramGSD character.

I have heard nothing but great things about Bomber and would buy a pup from him in a heartbeat. He's a looker for sure and couple that with the traits that he's said to have means that his GOLDEN; especially if praises reign from all the relevant/knowledgable people (something very rare). Titles don't mean much; they're a good measure of the dog's compliance...they also cover alot of faults but they are necessary as they're a needed measure. And not all sold pups are worked and titled.

Good luck with Bomber; I think that all sane people will value the information posted here about and laugh at the failed attempt to discredit Bomber for what he is; a great stud.

I'm sorry I don't see it as a "Bomber pissing contest" Every time the subject of this dog being a great producer comes up someone asks"what makes him a great producer?" Unfortunately there has yet to be an answer given that doesn't end up with the answer "Well he's a rally nice looking V-rated black male and he's had a number of breedings in Germany." The only difference now is at least there are T. Floyd's 2 dogs to name. Then you here "Well most of his progeny is still too young." Then it is too early to call him a good producer. You would think that it would be easier to name the progeny that makes a good producing stud, well, a good producer. Just for example when people say was FALK von den WOLFEN a good producer? They say yes, and can rattle off half a dozen names, off the top of their heads, of progeny that were in top trials or produced other top dogs. That's a producer.  Where are Bomber's examples of that type of progeny right now? I have yet to get an answer to that question. I'm just asking for the info. to back up the claim. If it's there I'll give him his props.

MIGHTY ZEUS YOU ARE WRONG. Just as JustaGrinda was wrong. As I pointed out there was NO BOMBER PROGENY on a "NATIONAL TEAM" this years and last years teams are listed below. NO BOMBER DOGS ON EITHER TEAM.

MIGHTY ZEUS YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN I never said "Bomber's son's aren't even IPO certified" EVER!

Then JUSTAGRINDA tried to pull a fast one with the post

"Just two dogs? Those are just two recent examples. If you want more examples, Ivan - a Bomber son - came in 4th in the AWDF just last month. Ali - another Bomber son - came in 13th."

That's still just """2"""" because those "more examples" were the EXACT SAME 2 that she had just talked about.


2013 USA "NATIONAL" TEAM
1. Irmus Galan Nalag
2. Danger von Juliet
3. Figo vom Fuchsgraben
4. Ickky vom Teufelsgarten
5. Max Ze Stribrneho Kamene
6. Zwack vom Holzwinkel


2012 USA "NATIONAL" TEAM
1. Max ze Stribrmeho kamene
2. Figo vom Fuchsgraben
3. Fox van't Enclavehof
4. Bac von der Siebengebirgsperle
5. Ayro vom Vogelbergblick
6. Irmus Galan Nalag

MIGHYTZEUS YOU ARE RIGHT that nothing said here, so far, will convince me to say that Bomber deserves the title of great producer. your post even resorted to talking about his looks and what you've heard other people say about the dogs. Where is the proof??? Not "he looks good" and "I heard from my second cousin twice removed". PROOF?

Nothing is wrong with Drago, I've seen the dog work in person and he's fantastic. And what he is producing is great. I've also gotten to see the Bomber offspring that Gary Hanrahan has and they're great as well. Ram if you hate Bomber so much, who do you think is a good stud currently? I agree that a 7 year old dog should have produced progeny that are of an age that you can really see something. I have an Irmus daughter, she's great. Everyone is going to think different on dogs, and have different opinions on who is good and why. I'm just wondering who you think is a great producer currently. 

It's not anything to do with his opinion of Bomber.  He's simply stating that your argument of proof is INVALID.