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by djc on 17 December 2012 - 22:12
No, not at all Gutav, I do not want to post the dam's pedigree because of certain controversy going on with the humans associated with her. I sent you the pedigree and I thank you for your insights! They truly are helpful and I thirst for more.
by workingdogz on 17 December 2012 - 23:12
I don't think anyone will hold your puppy's breeder against you or the pup djc 
I personally would be very very very very careful linebreeding on Troll/Timmy
and Yoschy. You will undoubtably end up with at least one or more in the litter
that simply cannot control themselves to put as simplistically as possible.
That one (or more) puppy is going to require constant impulse control work,
from 7 weeks on, and need a special type of handler. A good friend of ours
has a male linebred almost exactly as the 'B' breeding, and I can tell you,
the dog she has would have been put down had he not ended up with the
talented and aware handler that he did. He brings a lot of natural aggression,
but has prey through the roof as well. It is a constant 'on' with him. Not at all
for the newbies or novices. He is mentally very stable, but is quick to turn it
all on in a second. Most from that litter are similar, not quite as 'hot' as he is,
but still require strong and very clear handlers. It's not a breeding I would do,
it's just too hard to find good knowledgeable homes for those type of dogs.
Envision lots of screaming when stimulated (and this happens easily!), some
whining etc when excited. Very very vocal dogs. Not always fun to be around
With that sad, this particular dog is a working machine-but he does wear his
owner out And this is an 'ideal outcome' if the bitch is rock solid stable and
the stud
if either is at all nervy or sharp etc, well, you could have a whole
litter of 'bucket babies'.
I personally would be very very very very careful linebreeding on Troll/Timmy
and Yoschy. You will undoubtably end up with at least one or more in the litter
that simply cannot control themselves to put as simplistically as possible.
That one (or more) puppy is going to require constant impulse control work,
from 7 weeks on, and need a special type of handler. A good friend of ours
has a male linebred almost exactly as the 'B' breeding, and I can tell you,
the dog she has would have been put down had he not ended up with the
talented and aware handler that he did. He brings a lot of natural aggression,
but has prey through the roof as well. It is a constant 'on' with him. Not at all
for the newbies or novices. He is mentally very stable, but is quick to turn it
all on in a second. Most from that litter are similar, not quite as 'hot' as he is,
but still require strong and very clear handlers. It's not a breeding I would do,
it's just too hard to find good knowledgeable homes for those type of dogs.
Envision lots of screaming when stimulated (and this happens easily!), some
whining etc when excited. Very very vocal dogs. Not always fun to be around
With that sad, this particular dog is a working machine-but he does wear his
owner out
And this is an 'ideal outcome' if the bitch is rock solid stable and the stud
if either is at all nervy or sharp etc, well, you could have a wholelitter of 'bucket babies'.
by Gustav on 17 December 2012 - 23:12
@djc....isn't that basically what I said to you?
by workingdogz on 18 December 2012 - 00:12
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to expand or offer
hands on observations that might coincide with another poster.
hands on observations that might coincide with another poster.
by Gustav on 18 December 2012 - 00:12
@wkingsdog.....what's up....my post was just confirming for DJC that more than myself see these dogs this way....had nothing to do with you except that you and I are on the same page and maybe that would reassure her.....I don't know where u are coming from on this
....but it was not a post to denigrate you in any way.
....but it was not a post to denigrate you in any way.by djc on 18 December 2012 - 19:12
Yes, excellent posts from all of you! Thank you! If you have more or anyone else wishes to enter the mix, I'm always ready for more! lol
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