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by Hundmutter on 20 November 2012 - 03:11
vk4gsd - glad you find them mostly free. Every time I try looking something up I
get told its going to cost me 40 dollars or whatever.
get told its going to cost me 40 dollars or whatever.
by Maxleia on 20 November 2012 - 04:11
Hexe, she is sadly 100% english speaking. But she was young. Hopefully experience will at some point override what she has been taught.
by aaykay on 20 November 2012 - 04:11
You don't have to take the word of a canine behaviorist - you can observe dog behavior yourself ! All you need to do is to see the behavior within an established pack order and see the body language of the pack members. When the dominant member walks around, you can clearly see submissive behavior from the rest of the members and the body language of the dominant pack member is unquestionably dominant, and you don't have to be a behaviorist to observe that.
by Hundmutter on 20 November 2012 - 11:11
No you don't, aakay, but lots of pet owners dont see this enough
to recognise it - they dont see enough of their dog interacting in a
(even temporary, where its really not as obvious) dog pack.
Those of us with access to multiple dogs on a regular basis can
forget that. But its those people - often with under socialised dogs
which do not mix well with their own species - who form the bulk
of the behaviourists' clients.
to recognise it - they dont see enough of their dog interacting in a
(even temporary, where its really not as obvious) dog pack.
Those of us with access to multiple dogs on a regular basis can
forget that. But its those people - often with under socialised dogs
which do not mix well with their own species - who form the bulk
of the behaviourists' clients.
by gsdstudent on 20 November 2012 - 12:11
I have read Dr Mech's book on wolf sociality, but it has been many years [ 25] , since I read it cover to cover. I have shown clients the book many times where he has pictures of a dominant wolf interacting with a submissive member of the pack. The reason? there is no question from the photograph of which one is alpha and which one is betta. I try to teach pet owners that if you are not the ''lead dog'' your view will never change. Keep up the forum, it is the best avenue for learning.
by gsdstudent on 20 November 2012 - 12:11
I have read Dr Mech's book on wolf sociality, but it has been many years [ 25] , since I read it cover to cover. I have shown clients the book many times where he has pictures of a dominant wolf interacting with a submissive member of the pack. The reason? there is no question from the photograph of which one is alpha and which one is betta. I try to teach pet owners that if you are not the ''lead dog'' your view will never change. Keep up the forum, it is the best avenue for learning.
by Dobermannman on 20 November 2012 - 14:11
"We got to chatting because she was attractive and I like dog people."
I find it easier to listen to attractive young women, no matter what nonsense comes out of their mouths too ;-)
Thomas Barriano
I find it easier to listen to attractive young women, no matter what nonsense comes out of their mouths too ;-)
Thomas Barriano
by Sunsilver on 20 November 2012 - 14:11
[sigh!] Your average pet owner hasn't a CLUE how to interpret dog body language. That's one reason why I don't knock Cesar Millan: he is an expert in this area, and teaches people who watch his program how to do it.. (Okay, he blows it now and then, like the recent video posted here where he got bitten by a lab.) But until pet owners learn to interpret the subtle signs of dominance (stiff posture, stiff tail, head held high, etc.) they are going to fall for the sort of B.S. being pushed by this new wave of animal behaviourists.
Dobermann: LOLOLOL!!
Dobermann: LOLOLOL!!
by gsdstudent on 20 November 2012 - 15:11
you know, it is a funny thing watching specimens in a cage. I saw 2 men, one from Brazil and one from USA, in a cage. They must have hated each other. They were apparently trying to kill each other with punches and body slams. After about 15 minutes another guy entered the cage. He had them shake hands and these to combatants actually patted each other buttocks! This looked like affection. strange stuff this MMA. If you look at Dr Mech's book he talks about ritualistic behavior to keep pack hierarcy balanced. We call it daily Obedience with our dogs. No need for anything other than benign control if domince is established and in balance
by ziegenfarm on 20 November 2012 - 15:11
hexe is correct.....rubbish 
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