does working traits or drive in dogs relate to collor of the dog - Page 4

I have never owned a black gsd, so I really dont know if they are more hysterical , I dont think so though

but colors is that in Aussies many og the red tri-color are even more aggressive than many of the others not that it is proof
but I have heard this related too other breeds like labs, collies,aussies, border collies and so on 

here are a link to the color and temp of the dog what anyone else thinks 
http://suite101.com/article/does-coat-color-matter-when-choosing-a-labrador-retriever-dog-a252447

http://www.messybeast.com/colour-tempment.htm

Myret, "more hysterical" than what? GSDs aren't supposed to be hysterical (I assume you mean nuts) at all, so there isn't a scale for it that I know of. As was mentioned by someone on here, a family of dogs with bad temperaments throughout, could have black dogs in the family that are nuts...doesn't mean all black GSDs are nuts. I know, now there will be, what about chocolate labs? Could be the family, not the color.......beats the shit out of me :-/. All I know is that ninety percent of the black GSDs I've seen were normal dogs, and that ninety percent of the chocolate labs I've seen are nuts.

What an article says and first hand experience with the breed are two totally different things. Personal experience says that certain
temperament traits are more common in certain colors of Labs. I have trained and handled somewhere in the range of 75-100 and
by far, chocolates were the more hyper, difficult dogs (think like, a screw loose). Yellows tended to be on the hyper but not insane
and the blacks were more docile, bidable... like I said, no expert here, but I have had my share of Lab experience. I'd prefer a good
GSD any day LOL. With the GSD, I have seen no link between coat color, eye color etc.. and working ability.

Melissa

My only comment is I agree about the chocolate labs. Melissa good assessment about the lab colors and I agree.

As far as GSDs go, I have never noticed one particular color or another being more nuts.................

Have to go along with the masses on this one...  Color has little to do with temperament.  High drive or low drive can be gotten in any color.  The fact that many of the working line and K9 dogs are sable relates to Sable being a dominate color, not specifically that they're high drive.  High drive dogs are not ALL wired up.  My calmest dog is my black High drive Ufo/Xito grandson.  While he's the one I'd expect to protect in real life situations, he's also the calmest when we go visit the elderly.  He does need more exercise than most show line dogs, but again that's a generality.  

Black/Sable/Bi color dogs generally are working line....  Blk/Red or tan tend to be from show lines.  But there are Sable show line dogs, and there are Bl/red working line, just not as common.

Yep. I could take and show you a GSD that will lick your hand and be so happy to see you at first sight but has some of the best protection work you have seen.

Would it make you appreciate her less (or be impressed) that she is white?

I really don't think you can accurately assess this today because of man manipulation for specifics. 75%  of the breed today is Black and red, yet sable is dominant color.....this is not happenstance. Same with temperament.....far more sable dogs percentage wise with stronger temperament than Black and Red and again this is result of a breeding trend. Back before the Wienerau craze took effect, there were many strong Black and oak colored dogs like you see in the SR today that were very very strong. I remember a dog named Arko Rossbach, out of Enno v Anfteftal that was black and red with straight working temperament(late seventies), and he produced this consistently. My point is that color today is often part of a specialization purpose for the breed and can distort whether there is or is not a correlation. So as man has manipulated the breed for various purposes, misleading correlations may arise that are not true to the breed.

Wow! That was put perfectly Gustav!!! As reading through this post I was waiting for a reply such as yours. Thank you

No, my black GSD is very calm. He can be hysterically funny though :)

However, in cocker spaniels, rage syndrome is confined exclusively (so far as I know) to self coloured dogs (solid coloured) particularly the gold/red, though other solid colours such as black can be affected too. In the same breed parti coloured or roans are unaffected, so in cockers there seems to be a definite correlation between colour and a temperament issue, though no-one quite knows why or how and some breeders even say it doesn't exist. I had a black rescue cocker years ago, and believe me - it does! A friend of mine also had a golden cocker with it.