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by Gustav on 18 October 2012 - 11:10

Always consider the source, I have seen a lot of GS experts that have only owned or trained one or two GS in their life.....and they often have the strongest opinions based on talking to others that agree with themSad Smile

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 18 October 2012 - 12:10

My black puppy makes me laugh.  

by beetree on 18 October 2012 - 12:10

My blue puppy is funnier than your black puppy!  Tongue Smile  He works hard for his laughs, I'll tell you. Does Axel give Jagger the slime head?

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 18 October 2012 - 12:10

I personally have not found any link to the color and temperment. It's genotype and phenotype of the dogs. One does not determine the other. I've seen some black dogs who are the best temperment and who would just love to be couch potatoes, and know one little black bitch who has one of the best prey drives I've ever seen. I have a little sable female who is off-the-charts in drive, and then a sable male who is just a lazy fatkid haha. I think that the color and temperments and drives do not correlate. I know some older people claim that they do, but I think biologically it cannot be proven. JMO, hope this helps!

by joanro on 18 October 2012 - 13:10

I dunno, macro we (sorry, stupid thing won't let me over ride spellcheck), remember the fox fur farm in Russia? After several generations of choosing tame foxes to hold back for breeding, unusual, for fox, colors and markings started showing up which correlated with temperament. That fur farm turned into a science project and had astonishing findings. Maybe someone such as Beetree can find it and post a link. I saw it on natgeo a couple years ago. It's worth seeing it as it is very enlightening.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 18 October 2012 - 13:10

There's no doubt that you can change temperament to some degree through genetics, and
that's what 'selective breeding' is about ;  so, just as some of the people who produce mainly
for the pet market will have chosen more laid back, less high drive dogs and bitches to breed
with, as they are likely to, at least much of the time, produce puppies with 'super domestic'
temperaments, breeders who are concentrating on working and sports dogs will go for the
'livelier' type in dogs they breed with.  However, while there may be knock-on effects from this
that produce a spectrum of dogs' adaptability to certain lifestyles, that is a way different issue
from statements like "All black dogs are hyper", "All white dogs are more intelligent", "All sables
can do good bitework" and so on.

Although I did know an ex poodle breeder who swore that if they were Apricots, they were auto
-matically  more feisty than other colours ...Teeth Smile

vonissk

by vonissk on 18 October 2012 - 14:10

Joanoro all jokes aside--something about it last night just struck me as funny--I have also seen and read about that fox farm. It's very interesting and sort of mind boggling how those different colors popped up as they became more "tame".

Conspicuous

by Conspicuous on 18 October 2012 - 14:10

lol @ vonissk  :D

My black puppy makes me laugh too!  :D  Weird, I guess there's some truth to it! ;)

by joanro on 18 October 2012 - 14:10

The fox farm pretty much proves there is a correlation between color/coat pattern and temperament.

melba

by melba on 18 October 2012 - 14:10

Just thinking about this some more ha ha I have witnessed color/temperament correlation in Labradors.... The Chocolates that I trained were ALWAYS more wacko
then the blacks or yellows. I've trained more then a few but by no means am I an expert. I was also told this by someone who exclusively trained Labradors for detection. Anyone else witness this?

Melissa





 


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