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by mfh27 on 01 February 2012 - 18:02
Shepherdhope, how are "GSD is in such a bad way".
by shepherdhope on 01 February 2012 - 19:02
I have now been doing research into getting my next shepherd for the around 8 months. The more I find out the worse it becomes. I am in the UK there is one breeder that I know of doing extensive genetic test on all her breeding stock. Thank god upto now she has had all clear results. I know from talking to various GSD people that finding a good dog is going to be really hard. There are many pedigrees to avoid because of hereditary problems. My next shepherd will be from extensively tested parents. I think ostrich syndrome was mentioned when it came to all the problems with the GSD after speaking to someone very clued up with shepherds.
by Blitzen on 01 February 2012 - 19:02
1GSD1, I don't think that temperament tests are a waste of time or meaningless. I've seen Sch titled working line dogs fail the GSDCA test.
Members of the GSDCA need their dogs to pass their temperament test in order to earn a CHIC designation. I don't understand why anyone would trivialize anything owners do with their dogs in order to bond with them and to get an understanding of their basic temperament. I don't see them sharing what tests they use to qualify their dogs.
by GSD Admin on 01 February 2012 - 19:02
I have been trying to get Oli to add health checks/DNA testing to all pedigrees. Hopefully in the near future Oli can code it and you will be able to add this vital information to pedigrees.
We have the OFA list but are there any other lists on the web for genetic tests or does the OFA list cover all tests?
Thanks,
GSDadmin
by Blitzen on 01 February 2012 - 19:02
by cphudson on 01 February 2012 - 20:02
The ATT is not the end all of all to prove temperament but it is a useful tool in helping orders understand their dogs temperament.
I think basic testing of hips, elbows, spine, & DM are important prior to breeding. There are many other health issues more prone within certin lines of GSD's that greatly inflict their health that should be tested. Example a show line breeder in my area tends to produce heart issues in her American line GSD's. I've never even heard of these issues with working line GSD's. That breeder now does cardiac testing with her breeding stock.
The GSD's I started with & loved dearly. They were awesome workers with good hips & elbows. But by the 3rd generation chronic ear infections & skin allergies started showing up. I tried to breed ineffective dog with ineffective studs but still would get at least one pup with the same issues in the litter. I had to spay & neuter my adults then kept them as my SAR partners + pets. I abandoned that breeding / line completely then started over years later. But now I always look for any sign of ear infections / allergies / digestive issues in any new dog or pup's in a litter.
by shepherdhope on 01 February 2012 - 20:02
by GSD2727 on 01 February 2012 - 22:02
When I have done the GSDCA TC tests with my SchH dogs in the past (4 in total) all passed easily. However, I found a few things pretty stupid. A couple of those dogs were KNOCKED because they did not react to the gun shots. I was told that the GSD SHOULD react to the gun shots and the fact that mine did not brought them down in points. Same with the umbrella test. One of my females did not show much of a reaction, and again was knocked for it. I definately did not agree with those two things.
With that being said, I think the TC/TT is interesting, something fun to do with the dogs and will do them again in the future if there is one available near me.
by mfh27 on 01 February 2012 - 23:02
by dAWgESOME on 02 February 2012 - 03:02
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