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Jantie will never understand any comment that disagrees with his own viewpoint, he will also resort to ridiculous reasons for why you may be biased in order to bolster his disagreement with you. He seriously thinks he is the only source of information and that his exaggerated speculation regarding such information is wholly accurate. Anyone who expresses a carefully considered and measured opinion, based on all available information, Jantie will consider they are wrong and biased, and his own exaggerated speculation is the truth. Pathetic!

Oh wow! I expected Jantie to attack me as usual but this tops the cake! Admins and Mods, please do not delete any of his posts as this documents how twisted and radical Jantie's thinking and philosophy is. He turns every tidbit to his advantage: If the SV does not get involved as they are legally not able to, the SV is bad and corrupt for not doing enough. If they do get involved, the SV is showing favoritsm and bullies small people. Yes, I do understand and read German (still a bit better than English) and I do read your blog every once in a while when I have some spare time. Some has merit (I give you that) and other writings are for entertainment purposes at best - like the exchange between the SV and the owner of Charlotte vom Harzer Grubenlicht, for example. But this is not the thread to get into that subject.
If you read my previous post, you will see that not once have I condoned breeding to a dog with questionable hips or elbows (or both for that matter), or worse, support people who cheat. On the contrary! I have just brought some reasoning into all these accusations by pointing out the different countries and their breeding requirements and that the SV is bound to honor them through the FCI memberships and Memorandum of Understanding (AKC).
Why do you, Jantie feel the need to attack me and my integrity every time I dare to post a comment to one of your rants? You have done that for years, either here on the Pedigreedatabase or on one of the German discussion boards which you do not frequent much anymore because the membership there will jump all over you just for what you stand for. You put out statements that I am in it with the SV judges and Koermeisters. That is absolutely not true! I have no personal friendships there. There are some judges I despise and some I admire and respect. I won't get into naming names. The only friendship my family and I have ever had with a big time breeder and Körmeister was Richard Dexel who passed away years ago. His and his family's integrity still speaks for itself! In addition, I hardly breed much. Out of the last 4 litters in two and a half years, 3 were workingline and only one showline. This should tell you what my tendencies are. I would therefore appreciate it if you stopped attacking me with these false claims. Please do your homework first! And don't even go there that I should not flatter myself! You do have an infatuation with me, or maybe you are scared of my responses because I put a dent into your accusations and rantings and therefore limit your credibility.
Yours in the sport, Chris

Jantie you have made your point in effusive detail and any further comments will do nothing to further your concerns or opinions on this matter, they will only cause you discredit. 
The SV are aware of the matter, regardless of your cynicism they will deal with it appropriately and until they gather all the relevant facts and come to a conclusion I suggest you chill out.

Louis

I could not care less about discredit, Louis.
I mostly refrain from even reading the other comments alltogether and people should know they cannot hurt me.
Insiders follow the information I slide in between very closely, and DO take it serious, my agenda is NOT the agenda of my attackers.

I will continue to browse through the corruption and the enrichment within the SV. And believe me, things are finally happening.
Of course I do not disclose ALL of my information, but if people only knew they would soon shut up.

Any time now, I will report about another case of terrible conduct, if only I had some more time.
Afterwards, if things DO happen, the people here will again repeat it had nothing to do with my actions.
And frankly, I don't care.

Jaguar will soon be on the screening table now, with no chance of putting another dog in place, and he will be checked by Dr. Tellhelm. We are waiting for the outcome.

Ut aliduid fiat!

Jan

Money first.
Money second.





Dog ? place down list dependant on amount of money/ego involved :(.

SV-HG (01/12)

Wichtige Information ! (Ergänzung zur Information „Aktuell 01/12“)

Für den Rüden „Team Marlboro Jaguar“ (Vater des Siegers in der JHKL Rüden der SV-Bundessiegerzuchtschau 2011) wurde zwischenzeitlich durch die offiziellen Stellen in Schweden ein nochmaliges Röntgen des Rüden durchgeführt und es wurde festgestellt, dass  es sich bei der Erstaufnahme aus Schweden und der Kontrollaufnahme um den gleichen Hund handelt.

Aus diesem Grund ist der in Schweden zuerkannte Befund „mittlere ED“ als verbindlich anzusehen und der in Deutschland zuerkannte Befund muss aberkannt werden. Infolgedessen müssen die „V“-Bewertung der letztjährigen SV-Bundessiegerzuchtschau sowie die Ankörung für den Rüden aberkannt werden.

Über die möglichen Weiterungen aus diesem Vorgang werden wir umgehend informieren.

Ihre
SV-Hauptgeschäftsstelle
 

SV stinks from bottom to top

Hello,

as I have not posted in quite a while, I would like to point out that this post will be the one & only, after this I will crawl back under the stone I came from.

As much as I can understand, that some are under the impression that Jan's only merrit in life is to cause trouble - I can assure you this is not so. What he does, and that hurts the feelings of a lot of peopel, he puts his fingers in open wounds and has the guts to speak that out.
It is hard to understand why his 1st warning about Jaguar was deleted - it was clearly not his assumptions and allegations - it was from the Swedish Kennel Club, Jan was only bringing it to the attention of the world, not more not less. - David, I can allready hear you - dont even go that route, you do just the same thing, wether or not someone likes to hear your opinion, you speak freely your mind - so can Jan. -
If this warning only prevented 1 female owner from using either Jaguar or Harley, for stud, he allready did a a good deed ! We all know what happened here, dont we ? It was not Jaguar on that X-ray table - so does anyone believe that this was a "mistake" or that this is something that should be graciously overlooked ?
So what does that mean for the dogs ?
By the book - Jaguar lost his ranking BSZ 2011 and Körung allready, he should have not gotten it to beginn with.
That means ALL his progeny will loose their Pedigree and all results they may have achieved so far !
Basicly, they are mutts !

And you claim, all this can happen without anyone of the bigshots of the SV knowing nothing about it ? You know what, I might have been born at night.......

Chris, forgive me, I do have a lot of respect for you, after all, you helped Kenny a bit, for which I am thankfull. To think that the correspondence with the owner of Charlotte vom Harzer Grubenlicht is a amusing story at best - it may for you, it definetly was not amusing for Christine Lindner. I have been in contact with her, and I have to admit, this story left quite a bad taste in my mouth. You are right, it was a deal between 2 partys, the SV stays useually out of that - they became involved when they did not, from the get go, inform Christine correctly. The hole procedure took too long, was inaccurate, yep we will put a "Nachzuchtsperre" in Charlottes papers based on an x-ray at the age of 8 month !!, but we will not accept that same x-ray for the Zuchtwert !

.....
To put this at rest - I really thought this story not to be funny at all, and I am somewhat amazed, that soneone can see this as funny.

To round this up :

I truely believe that sometimes the language barrier takes its toll. And one more thing, Jan has been assulted quite a bit - maybe, sometimes he went overboard. But on the other hand, many other things were made public by him, that we would have never known......or at least not the mass of peopel that do now. I personally do know that other peopel were threatend, stating the truth - one can only try to imagine what that means for daily life.
Jan is probably very tense, and maybe he sees enemys where we wont - but hey, at this time he reacts like a dog cornerd, biting and trying to protect in all directions.
But again, Jan pinpoints out, that a whole lot is going wrong in the SV -
- Tell Rieser Perle
-Tony Rieser Perle
- Deckscheine
-sprupellose Verträge
-Dog brokers beeing members of the SV
-Dog brokers that are allowed to be in the ring during competition
.........

Many of these topics would still be lying in the dark, if it would not be Jan.After all it reads for me like this :
1. Jan posted a warning - in his words, using the mail from the swedish club
2.PDB delets the post, claiming hearsay - oh well, we will never find out who made   them delete it !
3. Now the SV posted the very same thing on their HP, just days later !
4. Now we have the answer to all our questions, and all believe them now - they just would not believe what Jan wrote, to begin with ! Now that's pathetic !

Anyhow, I wish all of you the very best for 2012 - may all your dreams come true.

Best Regards
Ulli Dresbach

Some people consider taking facts, then adding their own (wishful facts) then adding exaggeration and speculation, following which they assert that the "whole of their comments" are the truth.

1) Stretching credibility to and sometimes beyond the limits.

2) I have never done that.

Finally, obviously there are people who agree with Jantie's "whole package" of comment(s) - and there are people who are more discerning and concerned about them.

A comment.
Many occurrences in the SV system may easily be considered highly questionable and corrupt, I have pointed out several over the years. There is no doubt that with the social media of today the SV is under greater scrutiny and they are losing numerous members and losing numerous participants in their activities. I see very little change in the future from the SV, because self interest enhanced and supported by self opportunity and self influence, has to be the most corrupting influence on human beings, which very few can resist, and few can stop or give up its  various and numerous benefits, and especially its financial benefits. Sad to say the SV and the GSD Show scene World-Wide will definitely continue to decline at an ever increasing rate.

The last man or people standing will applaud themselves for being the top and best in the GSD Show scene, owning the TOP winning GSD, the TOP producing male & female, the top progeny etc etc. BLIND to the fact that such awards are ONLY relevant to the integrity of the system, the numbers competing and very importantly, relevant only to the quality of those dogs competing.

RIP the GSD Show Scene, for many and many more to come.