I just like to clarify as this often confuses me: when someone says they have a trained LE canine. IMO, if the dog is only trained and doesn't actually work the street he is not a patrol dog. It is not much different than PSA or any other dog sport. I think training potential k9's in tracking, building searches, obedience and bite work is awesome to prepare them to be sold to a Dept. It is all "sport" work or training until the dog hits the street and works with a Police K-9 handler. I do not consider dogs that pass a Police style K-9 certification as "patrol" dogs or police dogs. They are dogs trained in a similar fashion. Most decent dogs with a good handler can be trained to pass a certification. I'm sure Orbi is a good dog and a fine patrol dog. I am not criticizing the dog at all. I always find it intriguing when some one says they have a "patrol" dog or a certified Street dog and are not k-9 handlers.

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It is not worth it to argue with Jim.
Hans

A conversation doesn't have to be an argument.  A debate doesn't have to be an argument either.  I offered my opinion and that is all it is, my opinion.  I am smarter enough to know that I am not always right, don't know everything and am always open to new ideas and theories.  I completely understand if you feel it is not worth it to respond, I very often feel the same way. 

 If a person leaves police academy and is sworn he is a "police" officer at that moment, even so he never worked as such on the street.
If a dog leaves police academy and is certified he is a "police" dog at that moment , even so he never served on the street.
 Dictionary says:
po·lice dog

Noun:

A dog, esp. a German shepherd, trained for use in police work.

Wickipedia:
A police dog, often referred to as a "K-9 dog" in some areas (which is a homophone of canine), is a dog that is trained specifically to assist police and other law-enforcement personnel in their work.
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American heretige dictionary:
police dogn.
1. A dog trained to aid the police, as in tracking criminals or detecting controlled substances.

Collins English dictionary unabridbed:
Legal definition.
police dog n
(Law) a dog, often an Alsatian, trained to help the police, as in tracking
McMillan Dictionary is somewhat agreeing with you.
police dog - thesaurus entry

• View dictionary entry for police dog
• noun a dog used by the police

*Synonyms or related words for this sense of police dog
Collins dictionary

Webster
police dog

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1. a dog, esp. a German shepherd, specially trained to assist police
2. popularly any German shepherd dog

Webster's New World College Dictionary

 Thus both applications are permissible .You as a cop see it as a dog on patrol and me as a dog trainer sees it as a trained dog.
I hope that will help you to alleviate  your "confusion". :)
 Prager Hans

I understand your analogy.  However, in many areas a Recruit graduating the Academy still undergoes further training on the street.  After this field training, which can last several months they can work independently as a "Police Officer."   They are on a "probationary" period for up to 18 months.  A recruit graduating the Academy has training but no real world or "street" experience.  They may be "certified" Police Officers, but veteran Officers would never let them go on even a routine call by themselves.  They are "shadowed" for many months, until it is decided they are capable of handling the responsibilities of the job.  Some recruits graduate the Academy but fail to pass the "field training" stage and are not "cut loose" but resign or are terminated.  IMO, you are not really a "Police Officer" when you graduate the Academy, nor are you ready to be a cop.  Certifications and college degrees do not help at all when chasing a bad guy at 2 AM.  On the job training, learned skills, proficiency under stress and experience are what count. 

If a dog leaves police academy and is certified he is a "police" dog at that moment , even so he never served on the street.

  
Now, we are discussing different things.  Yes, I agree at that moment, it all hinges on what happens after that moment.  Dogs trained in a Police K-9 Academy and pass the certification, I would consider a "certified dog" expecting he has certified with his handler and is preparing to hit the street.  A dog that is trained on a bite suit, does some tracking, obedience and building searches I would not consider a trained Police dog.  I would consider that a well prepared dog to go to the Police K-9 Academy.  I find it to be a big benefit to be able to test and select dogs that have good foundation training.  I think that is a plus, granted the training is good.  We have a vendor near me that does terrible training, if we purchase a dog from them it is usually a newer dog just imported.  To prevent hem form screwing the dog up to much.  If anyone is going to screw the dog up we prefer to do that ourselves. 

This is purely differing views and semantics.  I understand your viewpoint and definitions, there is no argument here.  That is how you see it and you are correct in your way of thinking.  My feeling is that a Police Certification is nothing more than a sport test, not much different than a  SchH trial.  For our certifications the dog does a track, similar to a SchH 3 track maybe a little shorter.  The dog does off lead obedience, similar to a SchH 1 obedience routine without the dumbbell.  But we use voice and hand signals as well.  The dog does do an agility course, ours is rather demanding.  Then we do aggression control or bitework.  A call off, gunfire during one part and two outs. We do a long attack under gunfire with an out, a clean pat down and handler protection.  Dog is recalled to the handler to the heel position.  Then we do a building search with a decoy.  Sounds pretty much like a sport routine.  I can certify my dog at any time, we certify yearly and my next certification is in January.  I have never trained for a certification and will not train to pass my next certification.  Certifying is an easy day and really is the absolute minimum I expect from the dogs in our unit.  Any handler or dog that has issues with certifying has training issues that need to be corrected. 

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Thus both applications are permissible .You as a cop see it as a dog on patrol and me as a dog trainer sees it as a trained dog.
I hope that will help you to alleviate your "confusion 

That is exactly correct, we see it differently and for different reasons.  It is like so many other terms or defintions that get discussed, like drives, civil, hardness, defense, etc. I am going to post my defintions for these terms, including "Police K-9" in Wikipedia so my terms are the correct and accepted ones.  

Jim 

i have a half czech dog from eurosport look on their site and see what they havethey often have czech dogs and pups

Oh yeah! Well my Czech Cat can beat your DDR Cat up! So there....



Kim

Kim... LOL... to funny.