8 month old GSD puppy PTS after only owning for 19 days !!! - Page 10

Today I have check with Canine Council and have found out that this puppy's change of registration was done 03/02/2012

Something really smells there.  I would pay the owners a "surprise" visit if you know where they are located.  Or find a PI to do some surveillence.  There is something very wrong going on here.

MVF, My contract has now been reworded, new clause,

Today I have check with Canine Council and have found out that this puppy's change of registration was done 03/02/2012.

Please tell me WHY would any one change over the registration of a dog that has been dead for 5 months?

That was just 3 days before we met in mediation.



Well sounds to me like this opens a whole new line of questioning:

1. If the puppy was euthanized, per Veterinary records, are her papers being sold to register another dog?

2. If the puppy wasn't euthanized even though the Veterinarian paperwork shows it was, then the Veterinarian is now part of a scam and should be reported to whatever board licenses Veterinarians in Australia.

3. WHAT puppy (if actually euthanized) was euthanized?  I know it said that A DOG was euthanized, but how do you know it was the German Shepherd puppy and not some other unknown puppy on their premises?

If you are unable to make a surprise visit to the [former?] owners, then I would recommend hiring someone to do it for you.  Can you send the Canine Council the documentation you have showing that the dog (whose registration was changed recently) was euthanized (the Vet paperwork?)

dogshome9

The latest development (re: the registration change, so late after the event) potentially blows my theory out of the water, even if mine was best-case but still terrible all the same. Perhaps they're legally covering their bases, albeit bloody late, if it was your puppy that was so hastily PTS.

It stinks of scenario 3, hence the emphasis on 'if', as posted by Flashbang. The hiring of an investigator is warranted.

 

I had somebody offer money for Tess's AKC papers.


When we lost our Tess, we called AKC asap & told them she was put down.

Every breeder should be in contact with AKC to prevent this fraud (?) from going on.

I hear it is a very common thing to do just right along with switching micro chip's on dogs

for trials or testing. 

Well dogshome9 do I have some home truths for you! I know the people you have mentioned in this forum and let me tell you you have painted a very Rosie picture for yourself and have not stated some true facts about the dog, the people as well as the vet clinic's used. The dog that was sold to this family was under weight it was sickening to pat her and feel just skin and bone. You were told that the reason they would not send the xray to the person you wanted them to go to was because there was only one copy and they didn't want them getting lost in the post and they did offer to take them to the AVA and get them read but you never agreed to this! You sent the photo of the xray to the person you wanted to get to score it but how can they score the photo of the xray when it was not a clear photo of it????? Maybe you might have done him a favouror he did you a favour in someway as you already new him, because no specialist would ever lay their name on the line and score hips from a photo without ever seeing the original xray, mmmmmmmmm something fishy there I must say, also people from another forum you started told you you needed to ask permision to post any photos and should have asked before sending the photo off to be scored.You also fail to mention on this forum that the implants you used on her ( to make her ears stand up) are illegal in Aust. The reason for the rego change on that date was because you had never mentioned to these people that this had to be done with dogs NSW for the pup to be register in there name and they couldn't discuss the pup until it was in their name. You as a breeder should have informed them about this. The other vet clinic that read the xray stated the exact same thing as the first vet clinic which I must say is a very good clinic and has great write ups about them but oh that's right you have already had a run in with the 2nd practice over another pup you sold to someone and they were told the pup needed surgery on it's hips before it was 22 weeks old.... This is now 2 pups that you have sold to people with hip problems, but let me guess this pup was fine as well???? You have made this family out to be horrible but they are so far from that you forgot to put on here after running them down that they have a dog with Addison and has medicated him since he was 12 mths, spent money on their GSD that has allergies and not to mention taking in a stray dog who had tetanus and nursed him back to health and teaching him how to walk again and spending thousands on him so as you can see they are not the horrible people you make them out to be and they are not dog murders like people on here think. They care very much about their pets and will spend the money on them. They had it explained to them that dogs can have good xrays but bad clinical signs and visa-versa well she did have bad clinical signs she was attacking the other dog for no reason one min, then the next be best of friends the next. as for you stating she loved playing tug-o-war that is crap this dog didn't know how to play with any toys........ Maybe this is because she was bought up in a small kennel or maybe because she was just to sore to play, Only you will ever know that answer!!!! Can I ask when someone buys a pup from a breeder don't they normally show you the mother??? Well not with this pup the mother was never shown to this family for some reason....... Wonder if it was because she might of had the funny gait as well?? Only you dogshome9 will know And as for the mediation it was the other way around you were the one talking over them and I believe she wasn't able to get a word in. I guess if you had nothing to hide then you would of stayed calm like your son told you to and would of had nothing to worry about. My thought on all of this is that you chose to sell a pup with a problem to the wrong family because they just didn't stand back and just accept what you did but to make you realize you can't do that to people and get away with it. If there was never a problem with the dog why did you agree to an amount????? Isn't this admitting you know there was a problem there to begin with!!!!!!!!!! You can tell other breeders the name of this family and the practices involved but be very careful in doing so cause it could be slander. I would ask your son that you have stated is a policeman if this comes under slander since you have stated you have told people their names and the name of the vet practices...... Not a very good move!

this is rather old news, but why didn't the people who bought this puppy/dog return it to the breeder when they started having issues? 

I agree JakodaCD OA this is old news but I felt that the families side needed to be told as this so called breeder (maybe a puppy farmer) has only twisted the truth. They thought that her not being desexed may have been an issue because the other dog they have was, the breeder was told the other dog they have is a female but never once did she say to them that they shouldn't have 2 females together, now that's a responsible breeder isn't it???? The vet they took the dog to in the first place wanted to wait 1 month till they desexed her as they wanted to wait till the dog settled in to its new place. The dog was so skinny they couldn't stand the thought of the dog going back there! Not only that but they thought they had taken her away from being just another dog to being a loved pet. And who knows if they took it back the breeder may have just sold her to the next person and kept quiet about her hips, but anyone who is experienced with this breed would have picked it straight away.. Oh one other thing I forgot to mention in my above post was that this breeder knew they we're looking for an older dog not a real young pup so this is why she showed them this particular pup.. They told me there was a little boy pup there that was around 8-10 weeks that was so timid even to the breeder and only had one testical down...... What type of breeder is this??? And what happened to this little pup she may have had him PTS because she couldn't sell him......

Shapes, they should have contacted the breeder and returned the pup, they chose not to, and in the process destroyed a young life.  That is unforgivable and I hope the German Shepherd community in Oz blackballs them forever.  The decision to act independent of the breeder is a signal that they did not have the pups best intrests at heart.  Hope they sleep well at night.

Avaraw yes they do sleep very well at night because they know they saved a pup from being staved and from being in so much pain the pup is pain free thus had the pups best intrests at heart not the breeders.. Please answer this...... If you rescued a pup from a breeder because it was being miss treated and then you found out that it had problems that was going to affect it's quality of life would you contact that breeder and give them the chance to take it back????

 "If you rescued a pup from a breeder because it was being miss treated and then you found out that it had problems that was going to affect it's quality of life would you contact that breeder and give them the chance to take it back????"

Who "rescues" a puppy from a breeder? If you feel like have to "rescue" a dog from a breeder than you need to move on to another breeder, not rescue the dog and euthanize it. Sounds like something PETA would do and we all know how logical they are.