How much would pay for a trained dog? - Page 2

good vets can find HD by four months) will cost at least $4,500.00.

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THIS is  unbelievable , the poster makes a statement... GOOD VETS CAN FIND HD BY 4 months///


really......I am open for discussion on this....

YEAH< I had a vet tell a good customer at 4 months old , that her pup she just bought from me has HD,, and his ears will never stand...

Here is what we do...charge &75.00 to tape his ears

and the Bottle of  GLUCOSIMINE CONDR>  IS $65.00 and that will get you started.

SHOT is `35.00 for Rabies, and examine

$12.50 to clean his ears, that do not stand completely yet,

$`12.50 to trim his nails

My customer left to the parking lot in tears..THANK GOODNESS she didn't buy this VETS diagnosis.

THE PUP  HAS fabulous ears and always has and will
HIS Hips are OFA GOOD and he is one fabulous GSD that I produced.

NOW

WHEN did we find out we could FIND HD in a gsd pup at 4  months old..I heard about the testing in California a while back genetically that may lead to a hint
 
IS THAT STATEMENT TRUE OR FALSE:

SHall we make a new thread??

YR

People who pay that price are the king of people asking on this site "Can we reverse spaying" or something like that...

I paid $250,000 for a dog once.  It pooped gold nuggets, ran errands, mowed the lawn, fed the other dogs,  did the dishes, cleaned the house,  and made all of the business calls for me.   I seriously don't get how dumb someone can be to spend that much money for a dog.  There are so many dogs, probably nicer dogs, for much much cheaper.  The bite on the black/tan dog in the video didn't look that hard or full either. I've seen much nicer dogs for a lot cheaper price tag. 

You can find HD in a 4 month old pup. 

This is true............ sorta. If the pups hips are a wreck, then you will be able to see this at 4 months. So, technically, it is not a false statement. 

I got to get better at all this advertisement stuff. HA HA HA HA  I would rather never sell a puppy than just be full of shit. We should be able to tag people's ads with a BULLSHIT sticker. If there is more than _______ amount of BULLSHIT stickers, then people know it isn't some hater. 

I got that idea from an old Gallahger gag. He had made up these plungers with DUMMY or something like that on them, and anyone with 5 or more got pulled over by the police and given a ticket. : P

My bitch had to have her hips x-rayed at 8 months old (August 2010) when her right hip fully dislocated out on the training field. I saw the x-rays and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see when bone is malformed (what there is of it) and that with so littel cartilage (bones were rubbing on bones in places) that she'll most likely have problems for a long time to come.

My vet told me she'd need both hips replaced once she was fully grown.

she now has all kinds of supplements added to her food, she does exercise in a way that suits her physical limitations (so obviously no agility, silly jumps etc) and I've worked very hard on building up all her muscles at her rear eand. Both back legs are now extremely strong and she can run and play wiht the best fo them. I do stop her from overdoing things maybe before I need to but I will NEVER forget hearing her scream when her hip pcame out of place. I know that pain from when my left knee dislocates and for it to happen to a pup who doesn't understand what's going on is heart breaking.

Still, she's had x-rays recently (about 2 months ago) and yes her hips are still horrendous. But her muscle strength has helped a lot, she's had no more dislocations or subluxations and if she does require surgery at some point, I know she is physically strong enought o recover sooner rather than later.

I'm not medically qualified but I would hazard a guess and suggest that there can be some inclination of HD at a young age, even if it can't be diagnosed conclusively.

Furthermore, isn't part fo the enjoyment of having a young pup encompassede in training them yourself and building  bond with the pup?

I woudl expect to pay less for a 4/5 month old than an 8/10 week old pup because I would wonder what's wrong with the dog that it hasn't already been sold. I may consider paying the same amount as was paid for the other litter mates but certainly no more just because a breeder has taught the dog to sit!

So, LaneS what do you mean by basic obedience? Over here at least, my oldest GSD would be considered to have done advanced obedience but only as far as pets are concerned. He's nowhere near the standard required for highh level competition obedience. So everyone has their own ideas of what it is. Can you elaborate please?

GSDguy: where do I sign up for one of those dogs??;)  Stumpy: I would expect to pay more for an older pup from a reputable breeder. Notice I said REPUTABLE, bc those are the breeders that have taught him more than just sit.  They have started the puppy sack, they have started them on tracking, the dog has been socialized etc.. The reason I would expect to pay more is they have more invested in the pup, food, vets, bedding, and countless hours of working with the pup.  I also would not automatically assume something was wrong with the pup.  Could be the right owner hasn't come along.  Could be a very high drive and hard dog, and the only people coming around are inexperienced, or just want a pet dog.  Could be that everyone that came around wanted a higher drive dog and that one was more laid back.  There are a lot of reasons the pup could still be there.  Could even be something as simple as the people who were going to buy him backed out for one reason or another that had nothing to do with the pup.  Sometimes There is one in the litter that is just a dynamo and the breeder will hold him back so she can train with the pup.  Lot's of reasons to have one held back.  Now if there had been no training etc then I wouldn't pay extra either.  Then again how many breeders are going to tell you they are trying to charge more for one than they did the others.  Never when I bought a dog have I even thought to  ask what the other pups went for.

Thanx Donnerstorm. You're absolutely right - I hadn't thought of those reasons for a pup to still be with it's breeder at a few months old. I was always of the opinino that a breeder would have a waiting list where demand far outstrips supply so there would always be someone next in line wanting a dog - although as you say, if it's not the right owner or right pup for a specific home, the breeder is right to hold onto the pup (as well as because of all the other reasons you state).

But if a breeder I went to had claimed they had trained the pup I would ask for a demonstration of wehat the pup can do at 4/5 months old. I wouldn't expect miracles because I believe it's better to take longer with training and ahve the dog love what they do than for it to be a chore where targets HAVE to be reached. I also believe that GSDs don't really come into their own until 2-3 years old. Then they really seem to fly at whatever they attempt.

Of course this is only my experience. Everyone else will have differing opnions.