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by KellyJ on 28 February 2011 - 04:02
Our dogs are awesome in the house....
....until someone knocks on the door!
Im sure others know what I mean...
by troubles on 28 February 2011 - 04:02
do they claw/jump on it kelly?
by Changer on 28 February 2011 - 04:02
I love my dogs in the house. 2 WL gsds and a mal puppy. The older dogs take turns keeping the pup out of trouble. And everyone settles down when I say so. It does get easier past 2 years old!
by Mindhunt on 28 February 2011 - 07:02
Same here KellyJ,
Or if a cat or squirrel dares to sit on the garden wall right outside the living room window, Ronin just can't seem to help himself
Or if a cat or squirrel dares to sit on the garden wall right outside the living room window, Ronin just can't seem to help himself
by brynjulf on 28 February 2011 - 16:02
yes they can be good in the house. This remark posted by a w/g showline shepherd person LOL. Sometimes i feel I am the only person on this forum who doesnt split the shepherd into working and show. I like a dog who can work and be civilized regardless of his parentage. I've seen mouse meek working lines and fantastic working lines. Same goes for the show stuff.
by ronin on 28 February 2011 - 17:02
I have 4 dogs in the house and 2 cats, fortunately my wife has mild OCD so its always totally spick and span
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2 of the dogs are showlines (Rotts) and they are ok, but can be a irritating. My working line rott has weak nerves so goes off on one one with for the slightest reason.
My 16month old working line GSD that I use for club level schutzhund, is a model citizen, despite having the abilty to be a total knobber outside the house. That said it may be something to do with me developing as a handler over the years, but I doubt it.
Ronin
.2 of the dogs are showlines (Rotts) and they are ok, but can be a irritating. My working line rott has weak nerves so goes off on one one with for the slightest reason.
My 16month old working line GSD that I use for club level schutzhund, is a model citizen, despite having the abilty to be a total knobber outside the house. That said it may be something to do with me developing as a handler over the years, but I doubt it.
Ronin
by yoshy on 28 February 2011 - 23:02
I would like to answer your question with multple questions----
What good is a personal/executice protection dog if it has to stay kenneled when not biting someone?
What good is a service dog if it has to kenneled?
etc........
A balanced working dog should be able to turn on and turn off. Notice I didnt said good but balanced. I have a mali that will never transfer into a pet or be trusted alone in my home and she is a hell of a working dog. However My two- retired and active working shepherd are. There are many (I hate the word but) REAL working k9s that make great family companions in the house and are top notch in their working disciplines.
However as a standard rule my dogs are crated before and after working sessions to build desire before hand and soak up the lessons learned after training.
I think it is the opinion of most that 1 of 3 things occurs. They feel or simply cant train/raise a dog to be both a companion and worker, the can and dont bother because that isnt the dogs purpose, or the dog genetically does not have an off switch to be a companion dog.
Lee
What good is a personal/executice protection dog if it has to stay kenneled when not biting someone?
What good is a service dog if it has to kenneled?
etc........
A balanced working dog should be able to turn on and turn off. Notice I didnt said good but balanced. I have a mali that will never transfer into a pet or be trusted alone in my home and she is a hell of a working dog. However My two- retired and active working shepherd are. There are many (I hate the word but) REAL working k9s that make great family companions in the house and are top notch in their working disciplines.
However as a standard rule my dogs are crated before and after working sessions to build desire before hand and soak up the lessons learned after training.
I think it is the opinion of most that 1 of 3 things occurs. They feel or simply cant train/raise a dog to be both a companion and worker, the can and dont bother because that isnt the dogs purpose, or the dog genetically does not have an off switch to be a companion dog.
Lee
by troubles on 01 March 2011 - 01:03
would you say poorly bred gsd lack an off switch? i have seen a few gsd with no off switch
I agree a protection dog personal protection dog is worthless if it cant sleep by your bed at night i was watching a cops show recently on animal planet not sure if anyone else saw this but a women called the cops and was scared because her protection dogs who were kenneled outside were barking their faces off. Well it happen to be a rapist that broke into her house and started to assault her while the cops were on the phone. All she had for protection was her poor jack russel who did his best to stop the man but reallly couldnt do much. It was a pretty disgusting story she had more then one protection dog she had like 3 of them but they were all outside in a kennel while she had her small dogs with her. Did anyone else see that show? I can't be the only one who saw it? I am pretty sure she was already raped by the time the cops got there and arrested him dispite him being bitten a few times by her loving jack russel.
I agree a protection dog personal protection dog is worthless if it cant sleep by your bed at night i was watching a cops show recently on animal planet not sure if anyone else saw this but a women called the cops and was scared because her protection dogs who were kenneled outside were barking their faces off. Well it happen to be a rapist that broke into her house and started to assault her while the cops were on the phone. All she had for protection was her poor jack russel who did his best to stop the man but reallly couldnt do much. It was a pretty disgusting story she had more then one protection dog she had like 3 of them but they were all outside in a kennel while she had her small dogs with her. Did anyone else see that show? I can't be the only one who saw it? I am pretty sure she was already raped by the time the cops got there and arrested him dispite him being bitten a few times by her loving jack russel.
by ggturner on 01 March 2011 - 22:03
Wow, what a story troubles! Why have personal protection dogs and make them sleep outside? My 3 working line gsds sleep in the house and do just fine, but we had to teach them house manners.
by windwalker18 on 02 March 2011 - 00:03
All my dogs live in the house...
one is a very high drive fellow, and he needs more exercise than the other dogs do. If I get off my butt and walk him, throw ball for him, take him hiking or swiming etc... he's fantastic in the house. He does get crated if I go out without him, and at night when I go to bed...
Duke is a feral rescue, who ran with a pack for 2 years prior to living here... he is a great house dog, but I don't leave him alone with my other male even though he's altered. He does have a fear of thunder.
Klytie was a rescue @ age if 5 (she's 11 now) she has MegaE, but other than recycling her dinner a couple times before it stays down she is 100% perfect lady in the house. I consider her a medium Drive dog, probably from working lines. You can turn her on to play ball, or to tug, or swimming... but mostly she's a couch potato. She's a good medical detection dog (as in knows when I'm getting migraines etc) And she is a natural protector.
My 4th GSD is a young female, who is a fairly high drive dog, plays very hard, very rough... and will run forever without getting tired. She's great in the house though... very mellow.
I think that my answer to the question is how high is the dog's drive and/or energy level... and how much is the owner doing to use up some of it... Personally I don't want to have a dog that's too hyperactive (nervey) to live in the house, and has to be kept in a cage outdoors. If the only way that a dog can get wound tight enough to be a "real" working dog is to ignore them except for when you take them on the field for training or competition then it's perhaps not the best example of a GSD temperament. Three of my 4 do pet therapy at a Senior Psych Unit, and while high drive when asked, they're calm enough to meet and greet some very frail elderly people and light up their day.
one is a very high drive fellow, and he needs more exercise than the other dogs do. If I get off my butt and walk him, throw ball for him, take him hiking or swiming etc... he's fantastic in the house. He does get crated if I go out without him, and at night when I go to bed...
Duke is a feral rescue, who ran with a pack for 2 years prior to living here... he is a great house dog, but I don't leave him alone with my other male even though he's altered. He does have a fear of thunder.
Klytie was a rescue @ age if 5 (she's 11 now) she has MegaE, but other than recycling her dinner a couple times before it stays down she is 100% perfect lady in the house. I consider her a medium Drive dog, probably from working lines. You can turn her on to play ball, or to tug, or swimming... but mostly she's a couch potato. She's a good medical detection dog (as in knows when I'm getting migraines etc) And she is a natural protector.
My 4th GSD is a young female, who is a fairly high drive dog, plays very hard, very rough... and will run forever without getting tired. She's great in the house though... very mellow.
I think that my answer to the question is how high is the dog's drive and/or energy level... and how much is the owner doing to use up some of it... Personally I don't want to have a dog that's too hyperactive (nervey) to live in the house, and has to be kept in a cage outdoors. If the only way that a dog can get wound tight enough to be a "real" working dog is to ignore them except for when you take them on the field for training or competition then it's perhaps not the best example of a GSD temperament. Three of my 4 do pet therapy at a Senior Psych Unit, and while high drive when asked, they're calm enough to meet and greet some very frail elderly people and light up their day.
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