Over Breeding - Page 4

In Germany few people question back to back breedings. You have put the work and the money into the bitch, you are entitled to get something after such efforts. The whole ethics question comes up in the US because there is nothing to control the breeders. In Germany the required minimum age and the fact that the dog has to be titled already put a stop to breeding a bitch too early, and maximum age of 8 looks after that end too. Plus a few rules limiting frequency per bitch and litters per year per kennel, etc. Not every breeding may take, especially when you have access to some of the top stud dogs only one single time. So why risk missing a or several heat cycles? And a breeder really does not know what the bitch is producing after only 2 or 3 litters. If you have a plan and want to know what the future holds for your breeding plan you need to know how a bitch produces after several different sires. To see what is more likely to come from the bitch and what comes from the sire. Is that female producing certain results consistently? Consistently good or consistently bad? 2 or 3 litters tell you nothing. That odd nice litter could have been a flash in the pan. Every breeder who charges more than actual cost of raising that one litter is doing something for the money. The cost of the female and all that was involved with her does not apply to any litter - she is hobby after all. So stop kidding yourselves. Serious breeding goes beyond hobby. Serious breeding and puppymilling are two different worlds though. A serious breeder would act on the fact that a female looses a lot of pups. Find out why and if the bitch is the problem no longer use her. Take that single breeder who has 16-20 litters a year just to keep the females bred, and probably all to the same male or two that are the resident stud dogs. Considering that most females at one kennel will cycle around the same time, 8-10 litters whelped around the same time can hardly receive the attention they deserve. Most certainly not what would be considered a serious breeder.

i tooo would like to know..sounds familiar to me.. gsdjordyn@yahoo.com

Brittany says: "you come here claiming that I don’t know a damn thing about breeding and training, PLEASE! What do you think I’ve been doing all of this time? Do you think I piss away money on German shepherd books for no reason? " Actually Brittany, I did not say you don't know a damn thing about breeding and training what I said was: "You "think" you know all there is about training and are so opinionated, that it does little or no good to try to change your mind" NOW I truly DO think that you have pissed away your money on German Shepherd books, because if you cannot read and comprehend a simple message board- how in the world can you gain any viable knowledge from reading "German Shepherd books" which include much larger vocabularies than you can comprehend? As for any knowledge of breeding- that is definitely a ZERO FOR YOU. I seriously doubt that your extensive "reading" can put you on par with repro specialists and actual hands-on experience. If you could just give yourself time and learn to exercise patience, don't flaunt your ignorance, and actually learn to accept advice from those who have been there- then there may be some hope for you. This message board will always have conflicting opinions, but instead of jumping on the bandwagon (PETA is a good example of that!), take your time and look at the pros and cons and actually THINK about it. Amazing concept.

Konigtum, I knew you would rise to the challenge LOL.

Brittany, You make this too easy. I agree with you 100% that puppy mills are bad. But think before you type. Breeding to support drug habits. I worked narcotics for a number of years and can count the # of GSD's I saw on one hand, none being bred. Now if you said Pit Bulls yes, ran into a bunch of them used to gaurd the dopers stash. I worked high end, low end, rich, poor, and never ran across anyone breeding GSD's to support a drug habit. There are alot easier ways to support it then to breed dogs. Try and go on facts and not emotion all the time and you will do much better on the board.