Over Breeding - Page 2

Tell me also who is this breeder: derhundmeister@aol.com Bob-O

Makgas, Gina and amir are right. If you are not going to breed the bitch, get her spayed sometime after 2. If she has been bred, you need to breed more frequently as they get older or you risk pyometra. Anyone heard of that? You will understand if your bitch ever gets it...very bad!!! I can't remember the repro specialist that Gina refers to, but maybe someone here can get that name...I have heard it from him as well.

It is not normal to lose large numbers of pups each time a litter is born, although sometimes you lose one.... A healthy bitch who regains her shape and condition (both of mine do and it is remarkable) can be bred back to back easily and produce healthy pups. I do believe each bitch only has so many litters in her and if she produces well, then why not breed her more often.. there are so many out there who have small litters, difficulty whelping, are horrible mothers.... the ones that are good are the ones who should be bred because their daughters are more likely to make good breeding females as well.. Pyometra is a risk with every single heat cycle no matter her age, although it does seem to occur in older females fairly frequently.. maybe Nature's way of taking care of the answers to the questions for us.. I think before passing blanket judgement on situations one knows nothing about we should maybe find out more.. there is no one answer to any situation.... A lot of us put our hearts, souls, sleep and wallets (it costs more than youwill ever make if you are doing it right)into this and would never put our girls at unnecessary risk but I do intend to get the best out of the time I have available to me....

overbreeding should never be allowed these so called breeders that do this do not give a dam about their bitches or what kind of homes the pups go to all thay care about is money and most of these so called breeders get rid of the bitches after the bitch is past her age for breeding these bitches are breed litter after litter after litter thay can not be in the best of condition and their for have poor quality puppys these bitches are entrusted to us humans to look after and love not to be abused in the name of money their should be a laws that breeders can only have one litter per year per bitch this law can only help prevent abuse of these poor bitches and the puppys

Gina... Speaking of breeding, would you please email me in regards to the money you owe me? My email to you is getting bounced back, (when I try to email you privately) and you have never responded to previous attempts to collect money that you offered to pay me on tests run and health certificate for my female that was to be shipped to you for breeding just before you backed out of the purchase. I apologize for having to use public forum but to be ethical I would like to be repayed. nancy@zederkamme.com

amir I’m a GSD Lover; I do want to become a breeder who breeds rarely. I believe in breeding for specifically reason, for working, not breed for the sake of producing pets. We certainly have an overpopulation of pet quality dogs already in shelters that are dying each day because nobody wants them, since they prefer to go to breeders so that they can get some lousy pedigree papers that their not going to be using. I think is such a ridiculous thing to say that after certain years of the female’s life that they should be breed for the sake of her health, it’s plan out EXCUSE to produce puppies. ginasgsds, To make the story short, Spay if you don’t have a valid reason to breed. (PS I’m also curious into knowing about this breeder please send me an email as well) neohaus, Your post doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. You first encourage people to get their bitches spayed at a certain year of the bitches life, then turn it around stating that if the bitch hasn’t been breed that it’s ok to breed the hell out of it so they don’t get pyometra. Do you know ridiculous that sounds? Do you actually encourage this crap to your clients? Why not just spay the bitch besides breeding the hell outta it.

Here's a good article about breeding. http://www.jarroguebullterriers.net/Canine%20Reproduction%20Seminar.htm

I have found that if a female keeps losing large amonnts of puppies there could be a underlining health problem that is causing it; cyst on the ovaries is one. I have seen many people buy a "titled" female that was just bred, they bred it back to back, then they sell her and the next owners bred her back to back then they sell her. To me this is nothing more then a cash cow for some people. I have said it before and I am saying it again "there are low class puppy mill and high class puppy mills" but they are all doing the same thing. I have had one guy tell me that females have so many eggs and you have to use them up before they dry up!!!! I looked at his wife and said and I quote" I feel sorry for you"! (they had 4 kids at that time).

From our experience females tend to be self regulating. When their breeding life comes to an end, litters get smaller or they no longer conceive. Then its time for a spay. As long as they are healthy and can handle the litters well, they can be bred. Back to back is ok if the bitch is healthy. Breeding a bitch that is not healthy is not ok at any time. What is right differs from bitch to bitch. Some bitches absolutely thrive on having pups. I am always a bit surprised when I check into some old lines to see bitches that had 50 and 60+ live pups in their lifetime. And from a breeder point of view it is good to know that some bitches back in your lines were so strong and healthy to be able to produce that. Though some bitches should never be bred, no matter how adored they are by their owners... Excellent link Dog1 - Finally someone dispells the myth about the necessity of neutering the male dog to prevent the possiblity of prostate cancer: "Prostatic cancers do occur in the dog, but are more common in neutered dogs than in non-neutered dogs." ".... neutering does not cause prostatic cancer....but it does not prevent it."

DH, the breeding scenario you describe is what I have heard from breeders and vets in Germany.