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by joanro on 23 March 2012 - 20:03
Wow, RS, that looks like a fox got in the mix :) what a bushy tail!
by Red Sable on 23 March 2012 - 20:03
LOL, yes, I used to call her my little fox. 
by Hundmutter on 04 April 2012 - 08:04
Someone was saying its much about getting the right amounts and kinds of socialisation / habituation for particular dogs ? I reckon the whole modern emphasis on doing this stuff has come out of Behaviourists and Welfare people trying to deal with the after-effects of people
creating problems by keeping dogs as though, in Keith's phrase. they are 'yard art'. Don't
think its really generally aimed so much at people who are interested enough in their dogs to be communicating about them.
I did use to own an ex-Show bitch who if you took her to a Showground was absolutely fine, friendly, outgoing, calm; but take her just about anywhere else and I had to watch her as she could be just the opposite, with events / people /other dogs that she did not understand how to
deal with. She had been kennel raised and I often wished her first owner / breeder had done
more VARIETY in taking her places other than club / shows / the vet.
Yes I do think she was a bit "windy" in temperament, but I think it could have been improved on if she'd had more chance to habituate to more variety in her life when she was a pup. She was certainly much better AFTER people had been encouraged to feed her treats ! Once she accepted
anyone they were her friend for life.
I didn't get her until she was nearly 4 (because she couldn't be bred from due to high radiographic
hip score, primarily), so it was a bit late to do much about it, but I put in as much effort as I could, what with the getting folk to give her treats, & she was Good Citizen and I worked her in Obedience.
creating problems by keeping dogs as though, in Keith's phrase. they are 'yard art'. Don't
think its really generally aimed so much at people who are interested enough in their dogs to be communicating about them.
I did use to own an ex-Show bitch who if you took her to a Showground was absolutely fine, friendly, outgoing, calm; but take her just about anywhere else and I had to watch her as she could be just the opposite, with events / people /other dogs that she did not understand how to
deal with. She had been kennel raised and I often wished her first owner / breeder had done
more VARIETY in taking her places other than club / shows / the vet.
Yes I do think she was a bit "windy" in temperament, but I think it could have been improved on if she'd had more chance to habituate to more variety in her life when she was a pup. She was certainly much better AFTER people had been encouraged to feed her treats ! Once she accepted
anyone they were her friend for life.
I didn't get her until she was nearly 4 (because she couldn't be bred from due to high radiographic
hip score, primarily), so it was a bit late to do much about it, but I put in as much effort as I could, what with the getting folk to give her treats, & she was Good Citizen and I worked her in Obedience.
by Hundmutter on 04 April 2012 - 08:04
Someone was saying its much about getting the right amounts and kinds of socialisation / habituation for particular dogs ? I reckon the whole modern emphasis on doing this stuff has come out of Behaviourists and Welfare people trying to deal with the after-effects of people
creating problems by keeping dogs as though, in Keith's phrase. they are 'yard art'. Don't
think its really generally aimed so much at people who are interested enough in their dogs to be communicating about them.
I did use to own an ex-Show bitch who if you took her to a Showground was absolutely fine, friendly, outgoing, calm; but take her just about anywhere else and I had to watch her as she could be just the opposite, with events / people /other dogs that she did not understand how to
deal with. She had been kennel raised and I often wished her first owner / breeder had done
more VARIETY in taking her places other than club / shows / the vet.
Yes I do think she was a bit "windy" in temperament, but I think it could have been improved on if she'd had more chance to habituate to more variety in her life when she was a pup. She was certainly much better AFTER people had been encouraged to feed her treats ! Once she accepted
anyone they were her friend for life.
I didn't get her until she was nearly 4 (because she couldn't be bred from due to high radiographic
hip score, primarily), so it was a bit late to do much about it, but I put in as much effort as I could, what with the getting folk to give her treats, & she was Good Citizen and I worked her in Obedience.
creating problems by keeping dogs as though, in Keith's phrase. they are 'yard art'. Don't
think its really generally aimed so much at people who are interested enough in their dogs to be communicating about them.
I did use to own an ex-Show bitch who if you took her to a Showground was absolutely fine, friendly, outgoing, calm; but take her just about anywhere else and I had to watch her as she could be just the opposite, with events / people /other dogs that she did not understand how to
deal with. She had been kennel raised and I often wished her first owner / breeder had done
more VARIETY in taking her places other than club / shows / the vet.
Yes I do think she was a bit "windy" in temperament, but I think it could have been improved on if she'd had more chance to habituate to more variety in her life when she was a pup. She was certainly much better AFTER people had been encouraged to feed her treats ! Once she accepted
anyone they were her friend for life.
I didn't get her until she was nearly 4 (because she couldn't be bred from due to high radiographic
hip score, primarily), so it was a bit late to do much about it, but I put in as much effort as I could, what with the getting folk to give her treats, & she was Good Citizen and I worked her in Obedience.
by joanro on 04 April 2012 - 11:04
Hundmutter, very nice post. Your four year old needed work to correct an ongoing problem, and your method worked for her. That's good. But the point I was attempting to make regarding strangers being encouraged to feed, was concerning pups that don't have issues, you know, doing the hand feeding thing as a routine way of having to socialize. Personally, I don't think the gsd as a breed, should be so week nerved as to require strangers to hand feed.
by Hundmutter on 04 April 2012 - 14:04
Yeah, in general I'd agree with you Joanro. I just wanted to show that where the dog in q. is not a puppy, sometimes extra care with socialisation could have helped if it had been done. A lot of dogs in 2nd homes are still much younger than my girl was ... also, that it varies tremendously:
what her breeder DID do for & with all her puppies was entirely sufficient to make the rest of those I ever had contact with friendly and outgoing enough. My current boy was bred by the same person although slightly different bloodlines and his 'nerves' are fine. Didnt intend to say it all twice, by the way, still having a few problems getting to grips with all this posting !
what her breeder DID do for & with all her puppies was entirely sufficient to make the rest of those I ever had contact with friendly and outgoing enough. My current boy was bred by the same person although slightly different bloodlines and his 'nerves' are fine. Didnt intend to say it all twice, by the way, still having a few problems getting to grips with all this posting !
by Browser on 04 April 2012 - 17:04
My lexi never left her garden untill she was about six months (I got her off a neighbour) I had to get all her injections and buy her a leader ect.. She took well to my dog but any dog past our garden she would panic and turn aggresive towards any that appraoched... She is still a puller and still doesnt like strange dogs getting to close but isnt as bad as used to be.
GSD socializing at a early age is a must!
GSD socializing at a early age is a must!
by paulp on 08 April 2012 - 23:04
The problems described are character or training issues.
Socialization is a ludicrous concept. It is a way for people with severe personality deficits to be around other people and be told how pretty or how great their dog is. Dog parks are a prime example of this.
We use to just call it living; now it’s socialization!
Socialization is a ludicrous concept. It is a way for people with severe personality deficits to be around other people and be told how pretty or how great their dog is. Dog parks are a prime example of this.
We use to just call it living; now it’s socialization!
by magdalenasins on 16 April 2012 - 16:04
Not sure this is a term that is just overused about GSDs and would make people think twice about owning them. You hear this with every breed of puppy.
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