Is he bi-color

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by freemont on 15 December 2009 - 19:12

Sierradi,

Your Lexi is a thicker version of my girl- but they could be twins! I was told she was a bicolor, however, if you are telling me you would refer to Lexi as a blanket colored blk/rd then I will have to re-assess.

Sheesh. How many pounds is your Lexi?

Freemont.

by SchHBabe on 15 December 2009 - 19:12

A lot of dark black&tans are erroneously called bi-color, which is genetically distinct, and recessive to the B&T gene. Two B&T colored dogs can produce bi-colored pups but two true bi-colored dogs cannot produce a B&T pup.

The male that the OP posted and the female "Lexi" that was added in the thread are examples of dark B&T's.
The two dogs that Ambii posted are bi-colored.

Again, this is not just a matter of "personal preference" in labelling. Bi-color is a distinct genotype from B&T.

Yvette

by SchHBabe on 15 December 2009 - 19:12

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/623731.html

My pup at 15 weeks of age - a true bi-color. A little tan on the cheeks, jaw and chest, some tan on the legs, and tan around his butt. All else coal black.

A good rule of thumb that I use anyway is to look at the belly. A true bicolor will have a black belly. A dark B&T will typically have some tan hairs on the belly. However, this is hard to tell from a traditional "stacked" photo.

by freemont on 15 December 2009 - 19:12

SchHBabe,

Oh my, that Diesel is a looker!

Well, now from what you said re black on the belly makes me pause again when deciding what my girl s/b called b/c she has a black belly but gold fur in the groin and armpits from up the legs.

by Weezy on 15 December 2009 - 19:12

He is a Blanket Pattern. Some refer to this Blanket as a LARGE saddle, but most descriptively, It is called a Blanket.

The second photo is an old photo but Rajah is a bi-black.
The first photo is Zeta, a Blanketed Black/tan.
Sorry I am having some difficulty getting the pictures in here like I want.

Weezy.

by freemont on 15 December 2009 - 20:12

Weezy, SchHbabe, and Sierradi----- all good stuff! You are making the distinction more clear now between the blanket coat and bicolor. Thanks!

And SchHbabe- the genetics info is indispensable!

by AmbiiGSD on 15 December 2009 - 20:12

Take a look here: www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/07_Colour_&_Pigment/Colour_&_Pigment.html

There's a pretty good definition of a Bi-colour and the different extents.

This is the pedigree of the 2 boys pictured, which should also give you an insight into the Bi-colour gene www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/540547.html

by freemont on 16 December 2009 - 07:12

ok- so Ambii- the chart you shared with us did not include the PANDA! And I am not trying to be funny here because I have seen it on other charts.... Just wondering out loud...

by freemont on 16 December 2009 - 07:12

Oh- Ambii- you have Grafental!!! I have been lingering over this line for a while... very nicely done.

by VomRuiz on 16 December 2009 - 08:12

This is my bi color puppy. She is about 12 weeks old now. Both of her parents are also true bi colors

Stacy

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