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by Blitzen on 12 April 2014 - 17:04
The only dog is see in this thread that might be pacing is the black dog Sitamom posted and that may be an artifact due to his color. That article I posted describes pacing in this way...
A pace is a type of gait in which either side of the dog’s body moves in unison, which is called a lateral or ambling gait. The front right and rear right leg move in unison, then the front left and rear left leg move in unison.
The common denominator I see with the dogs on this thread is that the photos don't show most of the dogs at full stride and headed in a straight line. It's hard to get a great moving photo of any dog with a camera.

by susie on 12 April 2014 - 18:04
Sita´s black male is trotting in my opinion, and he looks good!
Re Dingo: Dr Rummel believed in 4 lines:
Canto
Quanto
Mutz
Marko
Dingo was linebred 2/3 on Canto, an attempt to strengthen this line, but didn´t work, almost no interesting males out of him ( some females ).
by SitasMom on 12 April 2014 - 19:04
GSD gaiting is not just trotting, gaiting is a special way of trotting where, with training and use of handler, the dog extends its hind legs farther under and the front legs farther forward. The correct use of a leash and just enough tension on the collar will "collect" the dog" and cause even longer steps.
The reason for this is the show ring is to excentuate the "powerful ground covering trot" which is part of the breed standard.
In the show ring, dogs pace to conserve energy or becasue the speed its asked to go is too slow. Extra training is required to keep a dog from pacing.

by Xeph on 12 April 2014 - 19:04
I will admit I have a hard time with the SV style of "gaiting". I will admit I don't like it much, and prefer to see dogs at the trot, which is much more natural.

by susie on 12 April 2014 - 20:04
Handling a dog who is gaiting in a "powerful groundcovering trot" is the most exciting experience even for the handler.
It´s just beautiful...

by Xeph on 12 April 2014 - 20:04

by susie on 12 April 2014 - 20:04
Xeph, a SV style show becomes interesting as soon as some of the dogs become tired and fall apart. At that point and during the off leash phase you are clearly able to see the faults
A real good gaiter is able to trot off leash in the same manner as on leash - I just love`m.

by Xeph on 12 April 2014 - 20:04
More exciting for some than others. Nothing wrong with this style of showing, it's just not for me :)
by Blitzen on 12 April 2014 - 20:04
That black dog probably is not pacing, but it's hard to tell due to his color. It makes it hard to see which legs are moving which way. Did I misunderstand you, Susie? Didn't you say some of the dogs pictured here are pacing? Which ones? I don't see it.
East is east and west is west and ASL people are rarely going to see any German dogs they feel have correct gait. Ditto the German people when they look at ASL dogs. This is of course assuming that either actually do ever really look at one another's dogs . Kudos to Xeph for looking at both lines. I do too and so far neither of us have been turned into pillars of salt.
Susie a few weeks ago I was at an SV show here in FL. One of the dogs left the ring on the heel off lead and ran under a tent. His owner had to get him and bring him back in the ring. The judge still awarded him V1 in a pretty nice working dog class. It wasn't as if he was the only decent entry. Is that "legal"?
by joanro on 12 April 2014 - 20:04
Then I can ask for a change in "gears" and put him into a gallop....collect him, push and bring him into almost canter in place...outside leg pressure behind the ribs and he canters in a pirouette, not moving any more than inches from the center circle of his hind feet.....the same sequence of footfalls as a gallop but ultra slow, collected and beautiful. These are not JUST trotting or just cantering/galloping, but those are the GATES he is using to execute the maneuvers.
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