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by Spooks on 05 January 2012 - 08:01
Way to go Chrissy... great news about Kaiser's elbows.
I hope you will continue to keep us updated with his progress.
I hope you will continue to keep us updated with his progress.

by Abby Normal on 05 January 2012 - 10:01
I am over the moon to hear about Kaisers elbows. I had to get up in the night (2 am) to have a peek to see if there was news!.
Chrissy, you and Kaiser can now start to create your new future together. He was so unlucky to be born with problems, but how lucky was he to get you!
Let us know what the ortho specialist says, and when he is going to have his ops. Lots on here would still like to help if its needed, and would love to follow your and Kaisers progress.
Chrissy, you and Kaiser can now start to create your new future together. He was so unlucky to be born with problems, but how lucky was he to get you!
Let us know what the ortho specialist says, and when he is going to have his ops. Lots on here would still like to help if its needed, and would love to follow your and Kaisers progress.
by workingdogz on 05 January 2012 - 12:01
Since Hans of Alpine K9 and Jiri of Jinopo have so many card carrying members of their fan club still coming to their defense here,
can one of you please let us know how the hips/elbows have turned out on the rest of that litter? Obviously Hans made sure he got the "right" puppy Jiri shipped him.
So maybe someone can find out from Hans. I don't belong to his board, nor will I join it to ask him. I find his and Jiri's business ethics and practices repugnant.
I have had a slight chuckle at his carrying on about all the "haters" and jealous competitors on here that someone copy/pasted for us to read, but overall, I have watched that "man" spin, weave, shuck and jive himself across this thread too many times to know he seems to be a habitual liar. When caught at one dead end road of truth, he spins and spins another tale.
What has come to light is that this is not, (nor do I doubt this will be the last) a rare example of poor customer service, this seems to be a "pattern".
Someone recieves a puppy/dog through both he at Alpine K9 and his partner Jiri at Jinopo, and if there is a problem, the client is then dodged for many days, almost weeks, until the client finally gives up in frustration. Thats not good customer service-thats a sham.
I would expect that from a "hit and run" ad on here, but not from people that profess to be breeders/brokers of such quality dogs, and expound about their years of experience etc and quality customer service and support.
So, how about Hans club members? Why don't one of you find out how the hips/elbows are on all those littermates?
can one of you please let us know how the hips/elbows have turned out on the rest of that litter? Obviously Hans made sure he got the "right" puppy Jiri shipped him.
So maybe someone can find out from Hans. I don't belong to his board, nor will I join it to ask him. I find his and Jiri's business ethics and practices repugnant.
I have had a slight chuckle at his carrying on about all the "haters" and jealous competitors on here that someone copy/pasted for us to read, but overall, I have watched that "man" spin, weave, shuck and jive himself across this thread too many times to know he seems to be a habitual liar. When caught at one dead end road of truth, he spins and spins another tale.
What has come to light is that this is not, (nor do I doubt this will be the last) a rare example of poor customer service, this seems to be a "pattern".
Someone recieves a puppy/dog through both he at Alpine K9 and his partner Jiri at Jinopo, and if there is a problem, the client is then dodged for many days, almost weeks, until the client finally gives up in frustration. Thats not good customer service-thats a sham.
I would expect that from a "hit and run" ad on here, but not from people that profess to be breeders/brokers of such quality dogs, and expound about their years of experience etc and quality customer service and support.
So, how about Hans club members? Why don't one of you find out how the hips/elbows are on all those littermates?
by beetree on 05 January 2012 - 12:01
I sure wish Hans had been been more elegant in his handling with Chrissy.
by Blitzen on 05 January 2012 - 13:01
Workingdogz, IMO this is another of those situations where some are only going to feel offended when the scam directly effects them. Acknowledging that there may be reasons for concern about incorrect pedigrees, health histories, and so forth could call their own dogs into question and damage their own breeding programs. Don't ask, don't tell..........
by workingdogz on 05 January 2012 - 14:01
Blitzen, you nailed it
Like I said..time will tell
Like I said..time will tell

by Blitzen on 05 January 2012 - 15:01
You betcha...time wounds all heels, not?

by Abby Normal on 05 January 2012 - 15:01
What I would really, really hate to see is for everyone who was standing together for Chrissy and Kaiser start to turn upon each other now that the immediate and most important battle is done and won.
This thread can and will stand as a warning to many, and I am sure will be posted and reposted many times in the future when someone asks about Czech dogs and those breeding and importing them. Lets not ruin it or diminish it now. No offence intended.
This thread can and will stand as a warning to many, and I am sure will be posted and reposted many times in the future when someone asks about Czech dogs and those breeding and importing them. Lets not ruin it or diminish it now. No offence intended.
by Blitzen on 05 January 2012 - 16:01
Point well taken, Abby.
by Schaferhunden on 05 January 2012 - 16:01
I do not think anyone is turning upon each other now. there is two sides here and the anti Prager/Jinpo is larger. But i see workingdogz cut Prager some like trying to be fair
And i think Jim is being very easy on Prager.And i will tell you why Jim it is said here has sat and eat with Prager and wife so he had to spend time with them.In doing so Jim would have to know #1Prager is no Trainer #2has no real dog knowledge and #3 the dogs he seen there are not worth the huge dollars they ask.I know A police officer that
meet Mr Prager and he told me these 3 things.So i know who i believe and Pragers statements he make about stupid people(?) Chrissy is very very lucky she has a refund
this a rare case.
And i think Jim is being very easy on Prager.And i will tell you why Jim it is said here has sat and eat with Prager and wife so he had to spend time with them.In doing so Jim would have to know #1Prager is no Trainer #2has no real dog knowledge and #3 the dogs he seen there are not worth the huge dollars they ask.I know A police officer that
meet Mr Prager and he told me these 3 things.So i know who i believe and Pragers statements he make about stupid people(?) Chrissy is very very lucky she has a refund
this a rare case.
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