Look at these hips - Page 65

Cheers to you RS. Kyser and Chrissy finally got a break and I'll help with the surgery fund.

Jenni wrote:
"The arguments against Hans and Jiri would make a lot more of an impact if there was an attempt made to make them factual or articulate, or even better, both. No matter how "right" you think you are or may be, the presentation leaves so much to be desired that unbiased people reading it just might be swayed against the anti-Hans camp for certain comments. A classy, well-said argument based on facts goes a lot further than fat jokes and crude, immature insults."


Really? did YOU write that Jenni?
You have dished out plenty of catty remarks over time on this board and many others.
Remember, those in glass houses


For the record, yes, people should stick to the core subject, Chrissy and Kaiser and the shoddy overall treatment she recieved from Hans/Alpine K9 and Jiri/Jinopo.
It's wonderful that his elbows have at least passed! It's even better she at least got her purchase price and shipping refunded. How long before you know the check has cleared Chrissy?

Now onto the surgery! Chrissy, please post the vet clinic's info so that people may still donate if they want to ok?
We'd like to send in some funds to help you two along.


RS:
Yes, Hans did finally "step up", but wow is he whining about it now on his board. "Poor me, Jiri and I are being attacked on PDB"

So in reality, he still doesn't believe what they did was wrong--I think he is more upset he got hauled up on the carpet and "outed".
I'm curious how the hips/elbows turn out on "his" pup, you know, the one Jiri wanted to make sure Hans got.
Cause of the paperwork and all....

Chrissy,
I am very happy to hear that Kaiser's elbows are ok.  One less thing for you to worry about. 

Jenni,
Really?


Jim

Excellent news, Chrissy. Now it's all going to be good for you and your pal. Stay positive and keep the faith.

"As predicted and as was just emailed, it's likely that my post won't even be understood by half of the contributors on this thread. ;-)"

I understood your post.  Mine, however, on the veracity of the information on the pedigrees of these dogs dating back more than a few generations was completely overlooked.  Perhaps I should be more explicit...we are discussing the accuracy of pedigrees for dogs that come from countries that couldn't quite account for all of their nuclear weapons when the wall came down.  Are you all so blinded by the "flavor of the weak (sic)" that you're unwilling to consider the reality that we really have no idea about the lineage of most of these dogs?  Hans and Jiri are doing nothing that hasn't been done in the eastern bloc countries for the past several decades; think about it.


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Keith,
As usual you make some very good points. 

Jim

Interesting to be worried about "unbiased" people reading this thread. I really only cared about Chrissy and the fate of her malformed dog.
I am delighted the elbows are clear!

So, I guess Jenni, you can just bite me. LOL

Some may know me through professional contacts overseas, not from posts here. I helped Novotny/Alpine with a website, training/technical knowledge from 1993. I was mis-representated about my dog I purchased in 1994, but you work with what you get. I have knowledge, experience,and training methods, that other European Trainers will not do. I looked at Kennels of PS and Polícia, and made a decision in 2002, to pick Slovak dogs (my family has been importing GSD's from early 1960's), before these people, knew the English word "dog". I was put into a hosptial by Hans and his incompetant handling, and have videos of Novotny and his partner training dogs. I run a superior Kennel in Colorado, with imported dogs from Slovakia by my Veterinarian partner. We strive for quality, not quantity. I train Spec Ops forces and specialize in hard corps, realistic training. There is not an option for me to Import a dog with health issues that could extrapolate on here. I just want to be treated as I would like to be treated. Hans will not give in to people. Hans tries a dominant, totalitarianistic approach, and, sorry to say, if you do not know better, you have been taken. I am not here to discredit Hans, he knows what he is, Jiri's reputation presedes him from the 80's, and this is just an insiders knowledge. I would rather lose a sale, then pork somebody over.  Some of us want people to get great dogs. I want to do the right thing, I "ate" $10,000 last year and that is not profit, but love of German Shepherd Dogs. I am in XXXXXXXXXX working, Slovakia, quite regularly, and select some excellent dogs.
But none with health issues or BS.
Thanks
CQB K-9

I will post a file for you when I have time.
Dakujem.

 

The arguments against Hans and Jiri would make a lot more of an impact if there was an attempt made to make them factual or articulate, or even better, both. No matter how "right" you think you are or may be, the presentation leaves so much to be desired that unbiased people reading it just might be swayed against the anti-Hans camp for certain comments. A classy, well-said argument based on facts goes a lot further than fat jokes and crude, immature insults.

Agree, totally.  I myself opined that the OP's situation could have been handled more elegantly, but was totally put off by the insults/threats and the overall tone of several of these posters/posts.    Chrissy herself remained above the fray, and never went down the path that some of these posters did, and I am truly appreciative of that....classy !

Either way, glad that the pup's elbows are fine, and hopefully he will have a long/loving life with his loving owner, once his surgery is done.  He truly deserves a break after all of the bad luck he has had, and the genetic short straw the innocent little fellow drew, even before he took birth.

cant read that it is too small

I was put into a hosptial by Hans and his incompetant hanlding what happend? were you eaten by a pp dog?

in this thread you say that hans provided you with a dog that saved your life many times..

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=138568&pagen=15#140192