Why are female pups often priced lower than males? - Page 6

Lol, touchy today, Daryl? Who says temperamental fluctuations are confined to one sex?  I didn't quote you, if you'll notice the lack of quotation marks in my previous post. I paraphrased and summarized what I had gathered from your post. I have been unable to find these "multitudes" of studies supporting your assertion. Please point me in the right direction. I'm not asking for a chart; I'm simply asking for a link or two. YOU don't need to write a whole lot of fluff??? Are we talking about the same Daryl Ehret when you say "I" and I say "you"?  LOL

And Daryl, no need to try and get personal or highlight your experience; I remember when you were new. I wasn't trying to take away anything you've learned, now, so no need to get all pissy. This is an interesting topic. Not sure why your claws come out when you're asked to cite studies you brought up. I avoid these things by sticking to my own personal experience in topics I haven't studied thoroughly. I have not studied this at all, never had cause to, and am genuinely interested, thus my statements were clearly what I surmised, given my own experiences. I'm fairly intelligent, and I'd think that I would have an easier time finding this stuff online if there were indeed "multitudes" (am I quoting you correctly?) of studies. 

I do agree; it's been way too long since we disagreed on anything! LOL

Aaykay, interesting observations re: females calibrating approaches based on audience. That seems cross all species lines, no?  

I'm not at all touchy, and sorry if my claws seem out.  Yes, "multitudes".

Although it is generally believed (notice I didn't say "proven") that genetics is responsible for 62 percent of our stess coping abilities, an "ALL genetic" explanation isn't totally sufficient without taking into regard one's gender.  This can be the case EVEN when males and females share IDENTICAL genes designed to cope with stress.

The BDNF gene is one gene for example that is involved in how we respond to stress and is characterized by two variants, valine (Val) and methionine (Met). Males that receive a copy of each variant perform better under stress than males who have two copies of the Val variant, which causes a higher cortisol response.  However, females who have two copies of Val (Val/Val) actually benefit (lower cortisol response) from this genotype.  SAME genotype, OPPOSITE effects.  Of course, this is STILL a hereditary factor, and therefore genetic, but IT'S EFFECTS ARE GENDER SPECIFIC.

There's ALWAYS exceptions to ANY generalized rule, and this would be one that's in favor of your argument.  Incidently, it also serves as an example of how a breeder selecting for "hard females" might end up affecting the continuation of his line if he's (or she, god forbid) is looking to select male progeny to do so.

A trainer/handler stands a much greater chance to controllably influece the breed through the use of males, a BREEDER has much more controllable influence through his females.

Aaykay, interesting observations re: females calibrating approaches based on audience. That seems cross all species lines, no?  

LOL... I see my 7-year old human female "pup" also indulging in the same tricks....with her equally wily 5-year old sister !