Lane Shepherds is a crook - Page 6

I would say that the $600 was a fair price to pay to not get one of his pups.  $3,000 is a joke.  IMO, Lane should refund your deposit, but he probably never will.  I think you are lucky to have not gotten one of his pups, very very lucky after looking at his website.  He posts a video of GSD's doing things his dogs would never be capable of doing and never mentions those aren't his dogs....But it sure seems he is promoting his dogs with that video.  To me that is fraudulent.  If you never get your $600 back it was the best money you ever spent on a GSD.  Consider yourself lucky. 

Hopefully others looking to buy one of his pups google his kennel name and this thread pops up.  Perhaps you have succeeded in educating others.

Slam always sums things up well. 

"Sounds like someone who is seriously interested in getting the $3k for little or no effort on anybody's part except the BITCH'S."

Well duh, Jackie - pimps ALWAYS make their bitches do all the work, LOL.  

Speaking of LOL, "deformation of character" sounds like something Nonacona would have come up with and is now officially an Instant PDB Classic!

Well you Guys can say what you like and give all the regards to Smiley you like but She was in the wrong, She did not tell the truth and no matter what Kennel this Lane fellow has or how much he charges the fact is only a deposit was paid and NOT 3000 as stated. For me ethics is everything and honesty, I am not a God fearing Man i live by my own set of rules and Honesty and Fair play are two of them for me i live and work that way then i will not do anyone a bad favour knowingly.
There is no point of charging a deposit if you are going to give it back.
Take my pigeons for instance, I get a couple of Fanciers this Winter asking me to breed them some young birds in the early spring of the coming new year Price agreed on
So for my own loft i do not need early bred young birds they are a NO No for my racing program and room in my lofts
So i breed say 20-30 young birds specially for these fanciers, I never take any deposit because  my way of thinking is this, The Fanciers MUST have to Trust me, so it is fair that i trust these fanciers to have the specially bred early young birds when ready to go,
However on several occasions in the past when notified they are not longer interested in them and there we are stuck with 20-30 young birds That is not at all nice,
Now i ask full price up front if they do not agree then i say NO go elsewhere it is as simple as that two years together i got caught out and nothing you can do about it
So This Lane fellow is not really the Bad Guy in this case, Would i pay him 3000 for a Pup Certainly Not, Would i pay him anything for a Pup No' they are not my cup of tea, but let me say this to him If you are a straight forward Guy then bite the bullet and give the lady back her deposit, You will be more thought about as a genuine breeder if you do and i would not think you would lose by doing it
To Smiley it is always best to tell the truth you should have a receipt for what you paid even by the manner of how you paid it but that is for you alone to decide how you work
Steve1

>>>>"I would say that the $600 was a fair price to pay to not get one of his pups. "<<<<

That's funny stuff and probably 100% correct.

smile, I'm not slamming you at all. but when dealing with "no refund" under any circumstances, a prudent person would take that to mean what it says.


I understand breeders need to protect themselves from buyers who flip flop but for the most part, when one sees this they should understand up front that the main concern of the breeder is to collect the change, not what is best for the dog or the buyer.

There are many events that can change between making a deposit and collecting a puppy, death in family, divorce, job loss. I've bought a lot of dogs over the years and so far I've never put down a deposit. That's like buying a "pig in a poke"


Rik 

So what you guys are saying is I should let her bully me in to doing what she wants after we had made a deal. It's not like I didn't have a video posted on the website of the pups but she wanted me to do one just for her.

edited to remove an email, email's and pm's are not allowed according to the TOS. 3rd violation.

Maybe if she had just asked nicely without the threat of finding another breeder I might have done it no one makes me do anything and if I just wanted money I would have made the damn video. It funny how some of you have such opionions about my dogs you have never own one of my dogs and there is plenty of videos of my dogs out there for all to see. I can't be a crook if I told you once you send a deposit and pick a pup it's posted there will be no refund because you can't get your way she could have had her pup at anytime she choose not to buy the puppy.

You should refund her money....... It doesnt sound like threats it sounds like a potential owner that wants to know exactly whats she getting...... Its not about bullying she worked for her money and you work for yours. No service was rendered and you sold the pup to someone else with no Finacial loss. Business works like this  " you have something, someone wants something you have, so they pay you for that something" Otherwise if you didnt provide something to someone its theft. wether it says no refunds or not, A refund would imply that a service was provided, which it wasnt. I mean honestly lane I think you viewed the email as an attack and then you reacted based on an email. Your an adult and so is sara so the american thing to do would be to work it out. I mean honestly its money someone worked for.

Steve,

The point of charging a deposit is to hold a "product" a deposit is a monetry value that is equal to the product being held for an extended period of time. From what ive read nothing was held, your example of the birds, that would be true if you were breeding your animals based on the number of reservations you received......... some breeders do that. A refund would imply that a service was done, In this case it happened in a matter of days nothing was lost and he just sold the dog to someone else. Smiley is fair to ask right away when she knew something was up with this breeder, now had she gave him the run around for weeks about it and he could of sold it to someone else I wouldnt agree with her but with the amount of time that it went through. That is how our court system would see it too. It would do people well to look up in legal terms what a refund means and placing No refunds on a website really doesnt mean anything ask a credit card company or paypal.

She DID ask you nicely. I can't think of a more polite way to say that if you don't send me the vid so i can see what I'm buying, I don't want a puppy. It's pretty plain and non threatening. How OUGHT she have worded it?