Look at these hips - Page 50

"I guess Hans Blabla at Alpine K9 and Jiri Novotny at Jinopo never really had any intention of rectifying their "f*** up" as they call it.  We are all still waiting to see what Hans does in this situation.  Geez, lots of bad press for Czech german Shepherds on here lately.  No wonder the influence of WGR dogs.  I am really giving second thoughts to getting another Czech German Shepherd, I may go with those West German "sort dogs" again.  From what I see the best 'sport dogs' make the best Police K-9's anyway."

Probably a wise choice and I don't consider it a problem limited to Hans and Jiri.  I've remarked on here before that I consider both the lineage and the so-called health screenings of dogs from eastern bloc countries suspect for obvious reasons but no one seems to want to hear it.  Some might be accurate going back 20 years or so but beyond that it's anyone's guess.

"Some might be accurate------- ", could you expound please? I have wondered about the validity of records from there myself. Would like to hear more.

Thank you, that was the impression I got from your website.

maybe so keith , only thing that slamdunc is overlooking is that many of those dogs actually carry 50 % or more westblood , so where to put the blame , also the dogs in other topic of bhall , referred to as czech dogs ,may actually be bigpart west , my breedings are mostly old czechlines , and
my healthrecords show different numbers than hung up on czech breeding here , several czechdogs at the moment produce male pups with one testical , all  these dogs are vito waldwinkel sons , but are represented as czechdogs producing one testicle , so it would be wise to see what is coming from who , and not to refer to full westpedigreedogs bred in czech , as czechdogs , that would give a clearer picture




 

what is so scary and shocking is people here are telling new people to go to apline and jiri all the time to go get a dog i have never seen anyone warn or say anything bad but now all of a sudden all this comes out after one bad experience? when other people like sable or sonia came up the whole board went at their throats and laughed and insulted them....


This has been going on for years with Alpine K-9 and Jinopo. I don't find humor in anything that a client complains about nor do I stick my head in the ground and wait for things to calm down. I wouldn't advise anyone to use Alpine K-9 in the future and feel that Han's reactions to this has said it all.  Now reading this thread would you purchase a dog from him or would it be at the back of your mind that he just might screw you too?














Chuck P
 

thanks red sable! i commend hans for what he has done.
again hans, has offered me a replacement as of yesterday by pm.
this makes 3 times maby four that he has done this. i declined,again, his offer.
 debbie, i don't want to get into a internet fight with you but some of your last statements about offering to seller help sell the dog for me is just not true.i called you on this once before.
 as i told hans in the return pm, it is over between us as far as the pup is concerned.
i hope i can forgive for the way things went. i try not to hold a grudge as it just eats you alive.
 thanks to all for your understanding and to the ones on hans side, i overlook stupidity.  wade mlk

I don't think anyone but Hans knows for sure how much influence this thread had on his decision to refund Kai's purchase price.  Descretion being the better part of valor, I will keep my opinion to myself - for once.

I am impressed by the way so many banded together to help Chrissy get what was due her. Kudos to you for holding a peer accountable; you made a big difference in one young lady's life. Keep up the good work!!!!

I don't commend Hans for what he did, he SHOULD have done that long ago.

It is nice to read what his wife wrote as well, and to compare her, Hans and Chrissy's version of just how hard it was for her to get ahold of Hans as soon as she discovered the overbite.

I'd put my money on Chrissy's version. She has not hidden any details, when asked questions she has answered them in a forthright manner.
Her story has always stayed consisitant, no deviation, unlike Hans, then factor in his wife's version..well.

In the end, there will be others that pop up on here I'm sure in time with similar stories.
There is a serious lack of ethics and professionalism in this duo/trio as evidenced by their own words.

I'm so happy Chrissy got her money refunded, it's a shame it took 20-some pages to motivate the broker/breeder/partner to do so.

Now, everyone needs to channel their energy into this dog getting good clear elbow xrays! He deserves it!


PS
Ok, are you for f*cking real Hans??
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=658226&p=discussion

WOW do you have a set!!

how much is everthing going to cost her? to fix the over bite plus her hips?I also have a question if she had given this baby dog back what would have happen to it?what happens to unwanted pups with bad hips and over bites?

Ditto, workingdogz.