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by Border11 on 09 February 2011 - 01:02

Destiny,
                       I get what you are saying but , I don't think its that cut and Dry. As every
kennel has some salesmanship when it comes to moving their dogs. Some more then
others and they change with each experience. I think your right about "trust" and thats what
most people are looking for in any transaction.
                                                         If you search Eurosport k-9 even on this database you'll find
allot of topics/info. involving eurosport k-9 going back for almost 5 years. Many are great threads
and informative. Their are however, several that aren't so pretty( lets say), theirs many more( lets say)
90% that are very positive and thats a good thing and Hats off to Eurosport K-9 .
                                                      For example a Eurosport Rep. said this to me recently," Josef said
________ (dogs name) is one of the best dogs he has had for sale in the Past year, and
dog was described as "Old Czech Style" by them." Turns out the Dog was bred in Budapest,
Hungary and Eurosport is Selling him for the owner. Hardly any Czech dogs and none from
The Famous Border Patrol (POHRANICNI STRAZE) are in pedigree. So in my book
thats not a Old Style Breeding or Czech Dog. No doubt I think the Dog may be a good
prospect and have tons of Potential, but if the Dog was the Best they had, I don't think
he would be for sale on their site for 3.5 months.
                                                                      So as I say everyone has to be a Salesman to
be in Business and stay in Business. I think its up to the Buyer to discriminate what is
fact and what is speculation and what is Plain Smoke. By the way this Dog is still for sale
on the site and thats okay ,but each transaction will be unique and each Buyer should
go into the transaction asking many questions and trying to get the best warranty and
best dog that their money can buy. I still say, the Best Buyer is an educated Buyer and
one whom asks many questions before buying. Their are many Happy buyers from Eurosport K-9
and their  are a few that weren't Happy. The Key is do everything you can to make sure its
a good Transaction protect yourself ask questions, and if possible visit them.

Border11

by SitasMom on 15 February 2011 - 16:02

Does a dog have to come from Czech Rebpulic to be "Old Czech Style" A dog with "Old Czech Bloodlines" would have to be from exactly that.....but "Style"?

Or does "Style" have more to do with the conformation and working style of a particular dog?

Josef has a lifetime of experience, and if he says "Old Czech Style" and "Best dog in a year" I'd believe him.

by Jyl on 15 February 2011 - 20:02

Sitasmom
The dog you mentioned is not an old style Czech dog. As mentioned above there is very little Czech blood in the dog at all. He is mostly Belgian and German lines. I am by no means knocking the dog though.. I watched the videos of him on Eurosports site and he is a nice dog. This is thje one thing that really bugs me....when people list dogs saying "old Czech style" and there is hardly any Czech lines in the dogs pedigree. Yes he is in Slovakia, but that does not make him "Czech".

Getting back to Eurosport...they have been around for a while so sooner or later there will be someone that isnt happy with them. But there are more satisfied customers than unsatisfied. I personally have seen several Police K9s that were purchased from Eurosport and they were VERY NICE DOGS. They "are kick ass take names later" type but were still very clear in the head. I have a female this is sired by Erri and I am more than happy with her. Eurosport breeds and sells some very nice dogs.

by Border11 on 15 February 2011 - 20:02

Very Well Said................Jyl
I couldn't agree more about both parts of
your reply! :-) Facts are facts and opinions
are just that ....."opinions"

Border11

by Border11 on 15 February 2011 - 21:02

Just for the record SITASMOM owns Rallhaus k9 and Brokers dogs for EUROSPORT K-9

which thats okay, but Sitasmom when they reply to a Eurosport Topic . Seem to always kiss Eurosport k-9 _ _ _. Its cause they are Business Partners ,so it should be said that their opinions are more then some what tainted . As SItasmon/Rallhaus are Business Partners so to speak, with Eurosportk-9. Look for yourself on www.rallhaus.com click on Males for sale BILL, X-Man, Noe are also on the Eurosportk9 site as well.
as you'll see the same on the Females for sale also(they all say "in Slovakia"). OH.... BY THE
WAY IF YOU SEE A DOG ON EITHER SITE CALL EUROSPORT DIRECT AS RALLHAUS MARKS THE
DOGS UP A MIN. OF $500.00 US dollars

Thats all legal and alright but, its a conflict of interest when they respond
to threads involving Eurosport and their Response is always one sided. I have seen this in
Sitasmom(Rallhaus) threads going back 3-4 years and even sometimes re-opening a thread and
responding to a thread 2 years Old. I'm not the 1st one to point it out. I Have
nothing against Rallhaus and don't know them, but they should only respond to threads involving
Eurosport K-9 when their relationship is Full known (& written in the Thread) to the People on this Board.
Other wise its like calling someone whom works at Exxon and Asking them who has the Best Fuel in the USA and they Respond Mobil! and you were unaware that they are Now Business partners and
Doing business (EXXON-MOBIL) as One. Bringing profits under both Roofs so to speak.

look at Sitasmom last response today its more then obvious.............

Border11

by destiny4u on 15 February 2011 - 22:02

hey which dog did sitasmom talk about jyi

by destiny4u on 16 February 2011 - 00:02

I just checked the site border i honestly dont think sitasmom marks up the price

when eurosport gives u a price it is a raw price and includes nothing

i notice on sitasmoms site she includes shipping and sometimes crate on her pricing

i do not think she she charges anymore than eurosport

by Jyl on 17 February 2011 - 07:02

Border11
I couldnt agree more with what you said about Facts being facts and Opinions being just that OPINIONS! I have known for several years that Sitasmom advertises Eurosports dogs for them. I have my opinions on that topic but I do not want to go OFF TOPIC as this is not what this thread is about. Again, the one thing that really bugs me is when a dog is advertised as "Czech" and there is hardly if any Czech blood in the dogs pedigree.

Destiny4U
Go onto Eurosport K9s website and look on the DOGS FOR SALE page. The dog Sitasmom was refuring to is named Neo. His pedigree is on his page.

When it comes time for me to get my next dog I would buy one from Eurosport IF they had what I was looking for. From what I have seen come from their kennel...whether its a dog they bred or just one that they have listed for sale....all the dogs have been very nice. I have talked to several Police officers that have K9s that were purchased from Eurosport and they are very good K9s. I have also talked to people that have dogs that they purchased from Eurosport that they are doing SchH with, again nice dogs.

by Hugelndale on 17 February 2011 - 18:02

Poison I would like to share my story and experience with Europsort. The female we have, was purchased through another broker here in the US and that's a whole "NEW" thread in itself, but staying on topic here it is. (So, just so everyone is on the same page; the female was not purcahsed directly from Eurosport, but was trained by them) The female was supposed to be a Level III protection dog(according to broker) and definitely was not that and Taunya even agreed she was not at that level when we spoke later on the phone, BUT let me tell you what she DID do one night for me that's PRICELESS. I was taking my two daughters to training one evening and my 16 year old son was home alone. He was upstairs listening to his I-pod when the dogs started barking. He did not think much about it, because it was just about time for me to be home. He turned down his I-pod and started to open his bedroom door when he heard glass shattering, the side door being busted down etc. He said it sounded like something from a movie, but it was really happening. He was so scared he just shut his door and waited for a miracle he said. That miracle was the female that Eurosport trained. I could not have asked for anything more from a dog then what she performed that night. When I arrived at the scene it was total chaos. My downstairs was torn apart. Things busted, broken, and blood was everywhere. I immediately was greeted by a dog licking me to death and a son that hugged me immensely and said, "We are never getting rid of this dog mom". The burglers did escape (there were 2 of them) but not without missing skin/body parts. The detectives came and went taking dna samples from part of the buttocks that were left still in the back jean pocket, and dusting prints from the doors etc. To this day we have never found out who broke into our home, but it's a moot point. I can still hug my son today, because of that dog. So, I guess my point is, who would have ever known that our Level I female who was purchased and paid for as a Level III female could do such a task. We were even a little dissapointed in the beginning (because of the price tag from the broker), but now she is PRICELESS. I will take a dog anyday in my home that can perform what she did that night. I am thankful that Eurosport trained her and we had the benefit on the receiving end. I know this post was a little long, but I thought it was important to share my story and my experience with Eurosport indirectly. I hope that you never find yourself in my situation. ~Cheers

by Gustav on 17 February 2011 - 20:02

That's what a German Shepherd should do and what the breed is supposed to reflect!!!!
jmo

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