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by vk4gsd on 16 February 2017 - 10:02
On average the lighter dog has the advantage, it's just physics.

by TIG on 16 February 2017 - 20:02
Vk
Allen don't you find it just a wee bit interesting that when we asked Shawn for proof of concept - ie pictures of & links listing titles and qualifications of his oversized dogs doing ANY of the normal GSD work activities I listed in my post that he appears to have bailed from the conversation?
Also please note I am not saying that an oversized dog can not do the work (except maybe the straight wall & ladder-I have seen some try & fail spectacularly). How a dog works depends on the individual.
I am saying that 1. Oversize is NOT needed. A standard size dog is perfectly capable of doing what the breed was designed for. 2. There is a rational behind using a standard size dog. The dog has greater agility & flexibility of use -wall, ladder, window are just some examples. 3. The GSD was designed around a core size. When you add an extra 30 or more lbs you are putting stess on a structure NOT designed for it. Big dogs trying to do the historical work of the gsd as opposed to being a couch potato are more injury prone and flat out don' t last as long. This is one of several reasons police have migrated to mali' s. Had a lc of my own breeding still herding at 14. 74 lbs 25". Usually don't see these big galoops much past age 6 or 7. Back in the days we both got started that was considered the age they had finally matured into themselves not the age they retired.

by Sunsilver on 16 February 2017 - 21:02
Yep, I remember those days, too!
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