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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 25 August 2012 - 18:08

Come on now. This is getting a little ridiculous with guessing what the breeder might be trying to do or what the motives are. To think the breeder wants her closer just so she can take her back is cynical at best. To say she might not tell someone about the pup's problem is also out of line at this point, since the whole premise of the thread is about a FREE MEGA E puppy, complete with xrays. Maybe the breeder wants her close so she's easy to return if the people decide she's too much. Maybe she's being over-protective of the puppy. 

I say ship the puppy to Furweed, but we can't crucify someone for what cynics GUESS are her ulterior motives...oh, wait...yeah we can. This is the PDB! LOL

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 25 August 2012 - 18:08

Isnt that what the forum does every day? Guess and reply when half the story is presented? Unless the person actually posts films or bloodwork, thats all we get, half the story to respond to.

Barb

by ILGSDs on 26 August 2012 - 00:08

Would it honestly be better to put her to sleep?  Did we misjudge the severity of the situation?   Are the radiograhs showing a severe case?  I spoke again to her and told her that the XX state person (furweed) seems to have excellent references and experience (thanks for posting your endorsment Eldee) and she said that she made a mistake by not jumping all over the offer.  Hers was a knee-jerk reaction, instead of calling and getting references like she should have she was hopeful she could find someone she knew by some aquaintence to take the puppy.  I am here instead of her because she does not go on internet message boards, it isnt her thing.  Posting here was my offer of assistance.  The breeder feels really bad.  She is not going to be breeding again any time in the near future.  We thought that as long as someone was willing to keep a tight lock on hard foods/anything edible and feed small, frequent elevated slurry meals and give anti acids that was all there was to it.  The puppy can not keep down hard food but keeps down the slurry.

Furweed

by Furweed on 26 August 2012 - 02:08

The pup's xrays show an aortic arch PRA. My spayed female GSD Freedom has a really bad MegaE with PRA with a very large pouch. She is doing really good right now on meatballs and KnoxBlox (Jello water) because she can't have plain water. She was on a slurry for a long time but started having problems with it so the switch to meatballs. She is also on medacopamide for nausia.
And Freedom still competed and got her first title in Rally obedience. She loves to do things for me, I can't use treats so my guys do everything for love.

You have gotten the pup this far I would not put it down I would give it a chance.

I am still willing to take the pup in.


by hexe on 26 August 2012 - 07:08

In all honesty, I don't blame the breeder for her intial reaction to Furweed's interest in this pup, and not because I have anything against Furweed, either.  I DO think that if all that's been said by and about Furweed is accurate, then that is THE BEST home this puppy could ever hope to have, regardless of where it's located. 

BUT--long-distance adoptions can be extremely  risky for all parties involved, and most especially for the dog itself.  I've known of several instances where the adopter looked good on paper, spoke and wrote well and had what appeared to be knowledgeable references--and then once the dog or pup got to the adoptor, the wheels fell off almost immediately; the adopter demanded the dog be picked up by the person who fostered it within 24 hours (despite being three states away) or they were going to turn it over the their local, overcrowded shelter which was euthanizing adult owner-surrenders upon receipt.  Despite the best efforts of many, the 'perfect adoptor' didn't wait the 24 hours, dumped the dog at the shelter, and yes, he was put down immediately.  That's just one instance; I don't want nightmares tonight, so I'm going to suppress my recollections of others.  Suffice it to say that one of the checks I think important when it comes to prospective adoptors is with the animal control office of the municipality where they reside, as well as the humane societies and shelters in the surrounding areas...see if any of them recognize the prospect's name, for better or worse.

I don't say this to try and hinder this placement, only to illustrate why the breeder IS wise to be cautious, and likewise Furweed ought to be cautious as well--the xrays are a big help, but Furweed should also ask the breeder to give the treating vet permission to speak with Furweed, or at the very least have that vet communicate with Furweed's boss as to the complete findings on examination.  For every instance of a long-distance adoption gone bad because of the adoptor, I can counter with one where it went bad because the person placing the dog didn't give full disclosure, and the adoptor didn't receive the dog or pup that was described, but rather a disaster with four legs and a tail. 

Again, not trying to sink this boat, and not trying to disparage any of the involved parties--just reinforcing that with the pup presently doing well, this isn't something either side should undertake without getting to know each other better.

by workingdogz on 26 August 2012 - 10:08

I agree with hexe, don't jump on the breeder's @ss so quick.

It seems like the breeder isn't even online? So the whole concept
of someone in another State wanting the puppy might blow her
mind a little?

I think the ideal of keeping the puppy close to home is for the sake
of the puppy, let's be realistic, if the breeder was simply looking
for the easy, she would have euthanized as soon as the puppy was
diagnosed. Instead, she has spent the time and energy to keep the
puppy thriving to date. Give the breeder time to think the whole situation
over.

Try to remember all the posted nightmares here for some dogs,
(and they weren't free), in case some of you don't remember-
Hessel, Vinetta Karthago, Athos h Sevens, Amanda Canyon, Adrie, etc.
Hell, people likely still deal with Janice Bartmess and she was convicted! 
Can you blame the breeder for wanting to be cautious?

Seems like the OP is trying to help the breeder come to terms with a
possible long distance adoption? Give the breeder a day or two to process
all the info and make her mind up. I do admire the breeder for wanting to
keep the puppy 'close to home', but even she has to realize that won't prevent
something from happening.  

My opinion? (for what little it's worth), if the potential adopter checks out
with vet references etc? I'd be shipping that puppy on over. 

Perhaps the OP can offer to keep in contact with the adopter via
email so that the breeder can keep track of how the puppy is
doing etc?  Photo's, video etc. 

People have to remember, as shocking as it may seem?
Not everyone is online these days. 


Eldee

by Eldee on 26 August 2012 - 12:08

What if they met halfway??  I am in Ontario so I don't know how far apart they are?  My geography is I-75 from Buffalo south to Florida once 15 years ago.  I really should get out more.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 06 September 2012 - 16:09

Anyone hear what the end results of this was?

Furweed

by Furweed on 30 September 2012 - 15:09

I am wondering if this pup ever got adopted???
The people never did contact me to finalize anything.
I send private emails but were never returned.

I have since had another MegaE GSD puppy come to live with me. He came from WA. He was shipped to me from WA to SC, he is doing great and has gained over 10 pounds in 2 weeks :) 

Eldee

by Eldee on 30 September 2012 - 22:09

Furwood, you are a good person.





 


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