Look at these hips - Page 37

Good idea, Zep. 

The SAME litter yes.  admin edited    PS The link was sent to me I cannot take credit for it. Thank you to the individual that sent it to me!

They are smart they had her sized up from the start.They knew she was a soft hearted person so lets stick thick puppy with her she will fall in love and never give him up. They are cunning.They make every last penny without and shame.Heartless

This was intentional fraud and NOW there is PROOF!!!!!  admin edit    Go to Alaska, if they'll have you, and set up your new business running a gas station. And while you're out there fishing maybe you can get up close and personal with the wildlife.   admin edit 

You know.....If you're going to destroy a man and take away his livelihood, at least do it intelligently.  Fact-----Chrissy receives Kaiser in June and informs Hans of overbite.  The AlpineK9 thread that workingdogz has just posted has Hans saying on AUG 25 that a pup in the litter has an overbite.   What.......you missed that???  You're an astute poster, work. Expert on just about every thread around here.  Perhaps too many posts. 

Psst...guys...the post on Hans' message board about the overbite was months after Chrissy contacted him to tell him about it.

As for the overbite issue (which is where this thread has gone), the breeder clearly knew about it.  Even if he had many litters on the ground at a time, he's very experienced, a warden, and was looking for keepbacks for him and his partner from this litter, so no excuse.  The broker/partner may have been told by him and then decided to purposely NOT look at the bite in front of the buyer so he can wipe his hands of it and claim he didn't know, he may not have been told anything except that it's only pet quality as this is just one of many transactions they do a year, or he could have been led to believe the dog was perfectly fine but his one is better in which case his partner screwed him.  If they can be very shady with buyers, wouldn't you think that's their personalities and somehow also leaks into their relationship?  If Hans came on here and rectified the situation (sounds like only full refund is acceptable at this point), I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt in this particular case.  Obviously he couldn't have foreseen the hips having issues, and that's what the original topic was all about... fixing that, and he's sitting on his thumbs too long.  He can do the admirable thing, even if it's cleaning up after his partner, as the dog DOES represent HIS business in some way or another.  If he knew the bite was so severe (not just one they are likely to grow out of) and passed it off to her, and purposely ignored her calls to wait until she bonded with it, and has his contract in place as it is so he doesn't have to refund any money... then I hope this thread is the beginning of his end.  Although he may be one of the most knowledgable "Czech" guys we have at the moment, when it fails to be about the dogs it's time to get out of the business.  Good luck Chrissy - all the positive reviews on the surgery give me great hopes for you and your boy.  BTW, I looked at his photos and he is gorgeous.

The proof is in the pudding. 

He still did not return her phone calls early on, and it yet remains to be seen if he will do the right thing.

It also still remains to be seen who is lying.  I hope Chrissy goes to the seminar and speaks to Jiri about this.

Edit to add:  If not dishonesty than incompetence.  Which isn't much better when you pay big dollars for a dog because you want to avoid crap like this!
 

LMH, I am by no means an expert, lots of experience certainly Doesn't take a PHD to read the truth in all this! Go ahead, defend him. It's your choice. I just happen to prefer to use logic when analyzing a situation.