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by Jackandbella on 02 February 2015 - 21:02
Ok so we will up the anti on food and progress to junior food and see how things go from there. He is a lot better in himself now which is good. Think we will monitor him for a while and if necessary forget about the X-rays for the moment

by GSD Admin on 02 February 2015 - 22:02
I would skip Jr and proceed right to adult. If this is pano sometimes it can linger for months or even years. Please switch them to adult ASAP.

by Q Man on 02 February 2015 - 22:02
I have been Training...Importing and Breeding for quite awhile and I NEVER use puppy foods...I begin and keep ALL my dogs on Adult Dog Food...I don't like recommening dog foods but I would choose a Good NO GRAIN Dog Food...Probably around 25% Protein...
Others can tell you their recommendations...So listen to all...then make up your mind what you'd like to feed...
I feed a NO GRAIN Dog Food (Adult) along with Veggies and Stuff for one meal...then RAW Chicken Leg Quaters for the other meal...I feed ALL my dogs twice a day...
Not all Vets are created equal and it might take you a bit before you find one that you're happy with...I moved to Tennessee about 1 1/2 years ago and have used 14 Vets...We still haven't found one that we like and that we'll use for our dogs...
Are you located in England?
~Bob~

by Jenni78 on 03 February 2015 - 00:02
I have to step in here and say while I don't necessarily disagree with what's being recommended, especially if you choose a grain-free, you MUST be careful with calcium content. Calcium, not protein, is actually the culprit behind a lot of developmental orthopedic disorders. A large breed puppy food is far better than a regular puppy food. I would not feed most grain free adult foods to any GSD under at least a year, if not 18mos. to be very safe.
Not knowing what you have access to in the UK makes it hard for me to recommend one, but here is a link to a list of foods between 4 & 5 stars on the Dogfoodadvisor.com that has appropriate calcium for large breed pups. These values were obtained by calling the companies, not just reading the labels. This is accurate and up to date as of last month. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwApI_dhlbnFTXhUdi1KazFzSUk/preview

by GSD Admin on 03 February 2015 - 00:02
All I know is I haven't had Pano problems since I quit feeding puppy food at 4 months old. This happened years ago and the thinking has changed a little on it in the meantime but I prefer to stick with what works for me.

by Jenni78 on 03 February 2015 - 00:02
We don't know if it's pano or not. I have never seen pano change with regard to what's fed- only genetics and vaccinations have seemed to make any difference in my eperience. I'm not commenting on what works for you. I'm commenting on good science behind being very cautious what the calcium content is of the food you're feeding to a puppy, especially if it's grain free. The higher the ash content of the meat meal, the higher the calcium. So, while adult vs. puppy food may or may not affect pano, too much calcium certainly will affect them...permanently. You only have one chance to grow them right.
by Jackandbella on 03 February 2015 - 05:02
by Jackandbella on 03 February 2015 - 05:02
Yes Q-man based in England
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