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by guddu on 09 November 2013 - 18:11
Hexe:
OP is worried about lymphoma...dont want to hijack this thread with side bar discussions. The importance of knowing the correct diagnosis lies in prognosis and treatment, depending on the type of lymphoma, some have better prognosis.
Sorry to say, but nowhere have I said its criminal to mix the 3 different diagnosis in animals for the reasons that you suggest
(ie cost). The web site that you provided, does not say that the terms are interchangeable, pl. point out where it says that, so that I may write to them and ask why the gross oversimplification. The only time that the terms can be used interchangeably is when dealing with lay people.
OP is worried about lymphoma...dont want to hijack this thread with side bar discussions. The importance of knowing the correct diagnosis lies in prognosis and treatment, depending on the type of lymphoma, some have better prognosis.
Sorry to say, but nowhere have I said its criminal to mix the 3 different diagnosis in animals for the reasons that you suggest
(ie cost). The web site that you provided, does not say that the terms are interchangeable, pl. point out where it says that, so that I may write to them and ask why the gross oversimplification. The only time that the terms can be used interchangeably is when dealing with lay people.
by hexe on 09 November 2013 - 18:11
guddu, re your question as to where the OncolinkVet article indicated that the terms are interchangeable:
"Lymphosarcoma (lymphoma) is the third most common cancer diagnosed in dogs. It is a cancer of lymphocytes (a type of blood cell) and lymphoid tissues."
The parenthetic inclusion of lymphoma in the opening sentence of the article points to the interchangeability of the terms as far as the disease in dogs goes. I understand where you're coming from, and as someone who was trained to do in-house biopsies so that our practice's clients who couldn't afford to send out specimens to the university lab could have some idea of what they were facing with their pets, I do recognize the value of differentiation denoted by the suffixes...but it is standard practice in the field to use the three terms interchangeably in dogs. Note that in cats, leukemia is always differentiated from lymphoma/lymphosarcoma because of the multiple types of leukemia that occurs in cats.
Yes, you're right, you didn't say it was criminal for the veterinary field not to pursue the diagnosis beyond the basic classification of lymphoma/lymphosarcoma- -but your objection to it implies as much. If that wasn't your intention, I do apologize, and you're also right--this discussion deviates from the OP's initial quest, so I'll yield from here.
"Lymphosarcoma (lymphoma) is the third most common cancer diagnosed in dogs. It is a cancer of lymphocytes (a type of blood cell) and lymphoid tissues."
The parenthetic inclusion of lymphoma in the opening sentence of the article points to the interchangeability of the terms as far as the disease in dogs goes. I understand where you're coming from, and as someone who was trained to do in-house biopsies so that our practice's clients who couldn't afford to send out specimens to the university lab could have some idea of what they were facing with their pets, I do recognize the value of differentiation denoted by the suffixes...but it is standard practice in the field to use the three terms interchangeably in dogs. Note that in cats, leukemia is always differentiated from lymphoma/lymphosarcoma because of the multiple types of leukemia that occurs in cats.
Yes, you're right, you didn't say it was criminal for the veterinary field not to pursue the diagnosis beyond the basic classification of lymphoma/lymphosarcoma- -but your objection to it implies as much. If that wasn't your intention, I do apologize, and you're also right--this discussion deviates from the OP's initial quest, so I'll yield from here.

by Abby Normal on 10 November 2013 - 07:11
How terribly said. I feel so very sorry for the OP and anyone who has to go through this and lose a beloved friend so young. This breed brings so much joy, but oh so much sadness too with the health problems that run through it.
by frogman usa on 22 November 2013 - 16:11
I lost my beloved Bella in June to lymphoma at just over 2 years of age. She was a German import from a respected breeder who has been in business for over 40 years. Less than a year after arrival here in New England she was diagnosed with severe allergies that required 2 shots per month. I still wonder if those shots in any way contributed to her cancer as I checked on her siblings and they all seem to still be doing fine in various European countries and one in Florida. The oncologist said that unfortunately 2 years of age is not that unusual for cancer to appear and some develop it much younger.
UDT 12
UDT 12
by Blitzen on 22 November 2013 - 19:11
Many dogs that develop lymphoma, including my own, also have allergies and other autoimmune diseases. My dog also received allergy shots, but I don't think the cancer was the result of the medication. I think that dogs with allergies may be predisposed to one of the lymphomas because their immune systems are compromised.
Very sorry that you lost your special dog. I know how you feel.
Very sorry that you lost your special dog. I know how you feel.
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