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by gsdstudent on 26 July 2013 - 20:07
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 27 July 2013 - 01:07
My Malinois is not as good as the one female Shepherd I have but yet, the Malinois can do things my Shepherd can't do. Once she's actively learned it, she might be able to do it but there are some things that come naturally to a Malinois (even a medi ocre one) that a Shepherd is not capable of doing, simply because of their confirmation.
I love my Malinois and I love my Shepherd. The Mal has 59 pounds, my Shepherd has 65. So it's close enough. Both will search for hours, however I have to say that my Malinois is easier distracted, especially by "Butterflies" whereas my Shepherd will search for hours and hours and it's harder to keep the Mal focused on the job. The Mal will hold a grudge against you whereas the Shepherd forgives more easily.
I love both breeds and from now on I'll probably always have one of both. Since my husband is in the military and I've got contact to quite a few K9 handlers, I know that all my dogs can easily hold up with the military k9's.
It's not just Shepherds, Dutchies or Mals, deploying. One of the units has a Pit Bull as TEDD... :)
by supakamario on 27 July 2013 - 12:07
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 27 July 2013 - 14:07
This is a military training area and my female jumped off the building for the re-find, to indicate and back in for her reward from the helper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-96QJ6-TAbA
by duke1965 on 28 July 2013 - 06:07
second point for all the showline haters to think about is that we basically have three lines now in GSD, the showlines, the sportlines and the workinglines that are capable of filling various positions
next thing to think about is that the military and police are taking more and more happy social balldrive dogs so this is where the sporty dogs can fit in again LOL
its an ever changing world
by morningstar on 28 July 2013 - 12:07
There are however the KNPV lines, those aren't purebred dogs but mixes of mostly Malinois, Dutchies and GSD, bred solely for working qualities. To my understanding they are classified as 'Dutch shepherd' or 'Malinois' according to the way they turn out; if they're brindled they're called a Dutch shepherd and if they're fawn with black mask they're called Malinois. I suppose if you're talking about these dogs than you CAN say they're basically 'the same thing'.
To the OP: I think Dutch shepherds, Malinois and the KNPV working bred dogs are preferred over GSDs because they're physically smaller, lighter, quicker, more agile, and mentally they're sharper and more intense. Not saying GSDs can't make great working dogs, because they can. But I can see why for military purposes other dogs are preferred.
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 28 July 2013 - 13:07
To the OP: I think Dutch shepherds, Malinois and the KNPV working bred dogs are preferred over GSDs because they're physically smaller, lighter, quicker, more agile, and mentally they're sharper and more intense. Not saying GSDs can't make great working dogs, because they can. But I can see why for military purposes other dogs are preferred.
Isn't that the X Mechelaar?
by morningstar on 28 July 2013 - 13:07
Yes, that's right. Either that, or X Hollander/X Hollandse herder, X Duitse herder. (to my knowledge) The X indicating they're crosses.
by Hired Dog on 28 July 2013 - 14:07
You are correct, it comes out stripped, its a Dutch Shepherd, it comes out red or fawn, its a Malinois.
by jemi on 28 July 2013 - 20:07
http://www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/7878/Cora-II-LOSH-6470
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